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Re: Et en Russie !
Les russes se tirent de Russie ! Pô grave , l'usine à soviet ouvre :
http://www.lecourrierderussie.com/societe/2016/11/frederik-paulsen-pma-moscou/
http://www.lecourrierderussie.com/societe/2016/11/frederik-paulsen-pma-moscou/
benoit77- Messages : 2859
Date d'inscription : 17/09/2014
Re: Et en Russie !
Slovenia to support sanctions against Russia until withdrawal of troops from Crimea and Donbas – Poroshenko (Porochenko était en Slovénie hier)
President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko and President of Slovenia Borut Pahor discussed the situation with Russian aggression in the east of our country and illegal annexation of Crimea.
This has been reported by the press service of the Head of State.
“We are grateful to Slovenia for supporting the continuation of sanctions until full withdrawal of Russian troops and restoration of sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine,” Petro Poroshenko said.
The President informed that he had discussed the situation in the occupied Crimea with the President of Slovenia. “We noted that the lasting militarization of the peninsula and mass human rights violations cause serious concern in the international community,” he said.
The Head of State also thanked for the assistance to Ukrainians affected by the Russian aggression. According to him, it is symbolic that 240 Ukrainian children who became orphans after the Russian aggression had an opportunity to have a rest in Slovenia and see the benefits of European vector of development.
Conséquences des sanctions:
Over 20 million Russians will find themselves below poverty level in 2019
A man looks at his cell phone next to an exchange office sign showing currency exchange rate in Moscow (AP photo)
Amid sanctions for external aggression, economic situation in Russia is worsening constantly, the latest figures show
Over 20.5 million Russian citizens will earn below the living wage level, the country's account chamber top official Tatiana Golikova is quoted by the UNIAN as saying.
Comparing to 2015 figures, the number of people balancing on the breadline in Russia will increase by 1.4 million people, she added during discussions at the Federation Council.
Read also Lavrov: Russia is not interested in frozen conflict at its borders
According to the latest forecasts of economic development of Russia, the total share of population living below the breadline in Russia will increase to nearly 14% in 2016.
This situation is thought to remain actual at least till 2019, the surveys conducted for the Russian parliament show.
Half of Russians think war against NATO is coming
Russian soldiers dressed in Red Army World War II uniforms
80% of Russians also think that humankind will never see the dawn of the day after this war
52% of the Russians think that the threat of a full-scale war against NATO is real right now, the Interfax agency reports.
According to the latest opinion polls, 40% rule this possibility out. Almost 43% also claimed that the possibility of war is higher that in the times of the Cold War in the 1970s.
Also, 60% of responders claimed that today the probability of Russia-NATO war is much higher than several years ago. Among the main reasons that led to the current tension were the West negative reaction upon Russia's increaed role in the world affairs, as well as continuing conflict in Ukraine, Syria and overall escalation in the Middle East.
Only 26% of the Russians think that war danger hasn't increased in the recent years.
Read more Russians secretly dying for the Kremlin in Syria - Reuters investigation
About two-thirds of responders claimed Russia is conducting policy aiming to decrease the probability of clash with the NATO. 32% of them are persuaded that Russia's international activities are peaceful and aspiring towards diplomatic solutions, while 10% think that president Vladimir Putin's authority and activity decrease the threat of war. Besides, 59% of them are sure that Russian media give an adequate and unbiased view of the military threat.
Only 17% of the Russians fear that their authorities can lead the country to war against NATO.
Read more NATO to increase its combat readiness amid Russian activity - Stoltenberg
Nevertheless, 78% think Russia should not use nuclear weapons first in the case of war against the NATO countries. Moreover, 80% think suck a conflict would cause a global disaster and the end of humankind. 15% of responders, however, think human beings can survive the nuclear war.
President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko and President of Slovenia Borut Pahor discussed the situation with Russian aggression in the east of our country and illegal annexation of Crimea.
This has been reported by the press service of the Head of State.
“We are grateful to Slovenia for supporting the continuation of sanctions until full withdrawal of Russian troops and restoration of sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine,” Petro Poroshenko said.
The President informed that he had discussed the situation in the occupied Crimea with the President of Slovenia. “We noted that the lasting militarization of the peninsula and mass human rights violations cause serious concern in the international community,” he said.
The Head of State also thanked for the assistance to Ukrainians affected by the Russian aggression. According to him, it is symbolic that 240 Ukrainian children who became orphans after the Russian aggression had an opportunity to have a rest in Slovenia and see the benefits of European vector of development.
Conséquences des sanctions:
Over 20 million Russians will find themselves below poverty level in 2019
A man looks at his cell phone next to an exchange office sign showing currency exchange rate in Moscow (AP photo)
Amid sanctions for external aggression, economic situation in Russia is worsening constantly, the latest figures show
Over 20.5 million Russian citizens will earn below the living wage level, the country's account chamber top official Tatiana Golikova is quoted by the UNIAN as saying.
Comparing to 2015 figures, the number of people balancing on the breadline in Russia will increase by 1.4 million people, she added during discussions at the Federation Council.
Read also Lavrov: Russia is not interested in frozen conflict at its borders
According to the latest forecasts of economic development of Russia, the total share of population living below the breadline in Russia will increase to nearly 14% in 2016.
This situation is thought to remain actual at least till 2019, the surveys conducted for the Russian parliament show.
Half of Russians think war against NATO is coming
Russian soldiers dressed in Red Army World War II uniforms
80% of Russians also think that humankind will never see the dawn of the day after this war
52% of the Russians think that the threat of a full-scale war against NATO is real right now, the Interfax agency reports.
According to the latest opinion polls, 40% rule this possibility out. Almost 43% also claimed that the possibility of war is higher that in the times of the Cold War in the 1970s.
Also, 60% of responders claimed that today the probability of Russia-NATO war is much higher than several years ago. Among the main reasons that led to the current tension were the West negative reaction upon Russia's increaed role in the world affairs, as well as continuing conflict in Ukraine, Syria and overall escalation in the Middle East.
Only 26% of the Russians think that war danger hasn't increased in the recent years.
Read more Russians secretly dying for the Kremlin in Syria - Reuters investigation
About two-thirds of responders claimed Russia is conducting policy aiming to decrease the probability of clash with the NATO. 32% of them are persuaded that Russia's international activities are peaceful and aspiring towards diplomatic solutions, while 10% think that president Vladimir Putin's authority and activity decrease the threat of war. Besides, 59% of them are sure that Russian media give an adequate and unbiased view of the military threat.
Only 17% of the Russians fear that their authorities can lead the country to war against NATO.
Read more NATO to increase its combat readiness amid Russian activity - Stoltenberg
Nevertheless, 78% think Russia should not use nuclear weapons first in the case of war against the NATO countries. Moreover, 80% think suck a conflict would cause a global disaster and the end of humankind. 15% of responders, however, think human beings can survive the nuclear war.
Александр- Messages : 5390
Date d'inscription : 23/03/2010
Localisation : Leuven, België
Caduce62- Messages : 15239
Date d'inscription : 05/01/2010
Age : 61
Localisation : chez les Ch'tis
Re: Et en Russie !
Bien sûr:
Kremlin hopes Trump will lift sanctions
U.S. sanctions backfire American business, the Russian presidential aide says
Russia hopes that U.S. president-elect Donald Trump will lift sanctions upon it, the Russian president's aide Sergey Glaziev claimed, the UNIAN agency reports.
Read more Trump wins presidential election (live updates)
"I think that Trump, as a reasonable man, will cancel anti-Russian sanctions hurting American business either. Thus the commodity turnover and financial-economic relations between Russia and both USA and the West will resurge and probably keep increasing with dependence on the economic situation only," he said on Wednesday.
Read more Putin's not going into Ukraine: Trump's key quotes
According to the earlier reports, during his presidential campaign, newly elected U.S. leader claimed he intended to establish 'very, very good relations' with Russia.
Read also Putin says Russia ready to maintain ties with Montenegro
Donald Trump, who was eventually announced a winner on Wednesday, also had been repeatedly accused of being unrighteously backed by Russia and sympathies towards Vladimir Putin.
Kremlin hopes Trump will lift sanctions
U.S. sanctions backfire American business, the Russian presidential aide says
Russia hopes that U.S. president-elect Donald Trump will lift sanctions upon it, the Russian president's aide Sergey Glaziev claimed, the UNIAN agency reports.
Read more Trump wins presidential election (live updates)
"I think that Trump, as a reasonable man, will cancel anti-Russian sanctions hurting American business either. Thus the commodity turnover and financial-economic relations between Russia and both USA and the West will resurge and probably keep increasing with dependence on the economic situation only," he said on Wednesday.
Read more Putin's not going into Ukraine: Trump's key quotes
According to the earlier reports, during his presidential campaign, newly elected U.S. leader claimed he intended to establish 'very, very good relations' with Russia.
Read also Putin says Russia ready to maintain ties with Montenegro
Donald Trump, who was eventually announced a winner on Wednesday, also had been repeatedly accused of being unrighteously backed by Russia and sympathies towards Vladimir Putin.
Александр- Messages : 5390
Date d'inscription : 23/03/2010
Localisation : Leuven, België
Re: Et en Russie !
Il y les trolls de St Pétersbourg, mais leurs contraire aussi:
Une armée de bots anti russe dans les réseaux sociaux - ARTE reportage ...
"Reportage ARTE du 1 novembre 2016. Une société allemande de robotique a découvert plus de 15 000 programmes-robots dont les adresses proviennent de serveurs en Grande-Bretagne qui interviennent dans les forums (Facebook, Twitter et autres réseaux sociaux). Dès qu'ils détectent le mot "Ukraine" ils envoient automatiquement des messages anti-russe, de l'ordre de 60 000 par jour rien que pour Twitter. Ces robots possèdent des profils "vivant" : photos, noms, abonnés, activités..."
Une armée de bots anti russe dans les réseaux sociaux - ARTE reportage ...
"Reportage ARTE du 1 novembre 2016. Une société allemande de robotique a découvert plus de 15 000 programmes-robots dont les adresses proviennent de serveurs en Grande-Bretagne qui interviennent dans les forums (Facebook, Twitter et autres réseaux sociaux). Dès qu'ils détectent le mot "Ukraine" ils envoient automatiquement des messages anti-russe, de l'ordre de 60 000 par jour rien que pour Twitter. Ces robots possèdent des profils "vivant" : photos, noms, abonnés, activités..."
Александр- Messages : 5390
Date d'inscription : 23/03/2010
Localisation : Leuven, België
Re: Et en Russie !
un (rare) russe critique Poutine:
http://gordonua.com/publications/zubov-kak-grazhdanin-rf-proshu-proshcheniya-u-ukrainy-my-pytalis-ostanovit-voynu-nas-bylo-malo-my-vinovaty-158055.html
http://gordonua.com/publications/zubov-kak-grazhdanin-rf-proshu-proshcheniya-u-ukrainy-my-pytalis-ostanovit-voynu-nas-bylo-malo-my-vinovaty-158055.html
benoit77- Messages : 2859
Date d'inscription : 17/09/2014
Re: Et en Russie !
C'est l'Ukraine, mais la Russie en premier est concerne:
Eastern front: situation continues to deteriorate
Shellings intensify along the frontline
Up to three thousand blasts per day - that is how the Eastern front of Ukraine sounds right now. These numbers are a rough estimate count of the OSCE Monitoring mission. Dwellers of the frontline villages say the shellings now are the heaviest for over a year.
Watch more Ukraine reconstructs strategical bridges wrecked by Donbas militants
Ukrainian soldiers agree: shelling was not so loud and heavy since the beginning of 2015. Even villages that had several quiet months now are under fire. Militants use artillery, grenade launchers, mortars and armored vehicles along the length of the front line. Mariupol outskirts remain the hottest point.
Read more Clashes rage on in Donbas warzone - ATO headquarters
Diplomatie à la russe:
Former U.S. ambassador banned from visiting Russia
Michaek McFaul (AP Photo)
A former top U.S. diplomat posts about this via his social networks
Michael McFaul, a former U.S. ambassador to Russian Federation, has been included in Kremlin sanctions list and thus banned from visiting Russia.
A former senior diplomat until 2014 and current Stanford professor reports about it in social networks.
He revealed his ban on visiting Russia while applying for visa to do Clinton transition work, McFaul revealed.
Et après ça:
Russia expects no sanctions relief under Trump - Medvedev
Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev speaks during a press conference with Palestinian president Mahmoud Abbas (AP photo)
Trump is not expected to lift the sanctions despite all the hopes, the Russian PM says
Russia expects Western sanctions over Ukraine war and Crimea annexation to stay despite U.S. president-elect Donald Trump earlier had assumed he could revise limitations upon Moscow, the Russian prime minister Dmitry Medvedev claimed on Friday, the Reuters agency reports.
"Our position is that sanctions will remain unchanged," Russian government top official told a news conference in Jerico during his visit to Israel. "Irrespective of the results of elections in any country, including in one as important as the United States of America, our assumptions remain unchanged," he also said.
Read also Former U.S. ambassador banned from visiting Russia
As reported earlier, Russia's president's Dmitry Peskov told Kremlin contacted with both Clinton and Trump campaigns teams during the race for White House.
Eastern front: situation continues to deteriorate
Shellings intensify along the frontline
Up to three thousand blasts per day - that is how the Eastern front of Ukraine sounds right now. These numbers are a rough estimate count of the OSCE Monitoring mission. Dwellers of the frontline villages say the shellings now are the heaviest for over a year.
Watch more Ukraine reconstructs strategical bridges wrecked by Donbas militants
Ukrainian soldiers agree: shelling was not so loud and heavy since the beginning of 2015. Even villages that had several quiet months now are under fire. Militants use artillery, grenade launchers, mortars and armored vehicles along the length of the front line. Mariupol outskirts remain the hottest point.
Read more Clashes rage on in Donbas warzone - ATO headquarters
Diplomatie à la russe:
Former U.S. ambassador banned from visiting Russia
Michaek McFaul (AP Photo)
A former top U.S. diplomat posts about this via his social networks
Michael McFaul, a former U.S. ambassador to Russian Federation, has been included in Kremlin sanctions list and thus banned from visiting Russia.
A former senior diplomat until 2014 and current Stanford professor reports about it in social networks.
He revealed his ban on visiting Russia while applying for visa to do Clinton transition work, McFaul revealed.
Et après ça:
Russia expects no sanctions relief under Trump - Medvedev
Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev speaks during a press conference with Palestinian president Mahmoud Abbas (AP photo)
Trump is not expected to lift the sanctions despite all the hopes, the Russian PM says
Russia expects Western sanctions over Ukraine war and Crimea annexation to stay despite U.S. president-elect Donald Trump earlier had assumed he could revise limitations upon Moscow, the Russian prime minister Dmitry Medvedev claimed on Friday, the Reuters agency reports.
"Our position is that sanctions will remain unchanged," Russian government top official told a news conference in Jerico during his visit to Israel. "Irrespective of the results of elections in any country, including in one as important as the United States of America, our assumptions remain unchanged," he also said.
Read also Former U.S. ambassador banned from visiting Russia
As reported earlier, Russia's president's Dmitry Peskov told Kremlin contacted with both Clinton and Trump campaigns teams during the race for White House.
Re: Et en Russie !
http://www.boredpanda.com/soviet-star-patrick-spongebob-voronez-russia
Poutine va déclencher la 3eme guerre mondial après ce coup là lol.
mortimer- Messages : 94
Date d'inscription : 07/12/2014
Re: Et en Russie !
mortimer a écrit:
http://www.boredpanda.com/soviet-star-patrick-spongebob-voronez-russia
Poutine va déclencher la 3eme guerre mondial après ce coup là lol.
Il y en a qui ont des c...... au c.l en Russie ! Physiquement, comme moralement !
Krispoluk- Messages : 9858
Date d'inscription : 03/06/2014
Localisation : Chez les Ch'tis
Re: Et en Russie !
Exactement surtout que:
Russia wants to dominate in region – Dietrich Voigt
Karsten Dietrich Voigt, the member of the Presidium of the German Council for Foreign Policy and former chairman of the NATO Parliamentary Assembly (1994-96), says Russia is not interested in strong Ukraine but wants to be a dominant power, therefore, directly or indirectly, trying to implement its own all-encompassing policy options in the region.
This statement Voigt made in his interview with Ukrainian Espreso TV channel.
He said without a military force Russia would not give up on Crimea, nor would it abandon its sphere of influence in the eastern part of Ukraine.
Statements that the current conflict will a long-term one are unpleasant but quite realistic, Voigt emphasized.
He added that he sometimes compares this situation with the situation in Berlin when the conflict lasted for decades. At that time, the Soviet Union was implementing its interests and expanding its sphere of influence. Even though the German problems could be solved, he said, after many years they remained unresolved. Voigt stresses the two situations are not identical, but one of the preconditions to tackle the current problems could be Russia`s understanding that it has got stuck in a dead end, according to Voigt.
Russia wants to dominate in region – Dietrich Voigt
Karsten Dietrich Voigt, the member of the Presidium of the German Council for Foreign Policy and former chairman of the NATO Parliamentary Assembly (1994-96), says Russia is not interested in strong Ukraine but wants to be a dominant power, therefore, directly or indirectly, trying to implement its own all-encompassing policy options in the region.
This statement Voigt made in his interview with Ukrainian Espreso TV channel.
He said without a military force Russia would not give up on Crimea, nor would it abandon its sphere of influence in the eastern part of Ukraine.
Statements that the current conflict will a long-term one are unpleasant but quite realistic, Voigt emphasized.
He added that he sometimes compares this situation with the situation in Berlin when the conflict lasted for decades. At that time, the Soviet Union was implementing its interests and expanding its sphere of influence. Even though the German problems could be solved, he said, after many years they remained unresolved. Voigt stresses the two situations are not identical, but one of the preconditions to tackle the current problems could be Russia`s understanding that it has got stuck in a dead end, according to Voigt.
Александр- Messages : 5390
Date d'inscription : 23/03/2010
Localisation : Leuven, België
Re: Et en Russie !
Même en Russie:
Russia's Economy Minister detained over bribery allegations
(Le ministre russe de l'Economie a été arrêté pour corruption)
Russian Economy Minister Alexei Ulyukayev walks before a State Council meeting in the Kremlin in Moscow, Russia (AP photo)
Alexei Ulyukayev is accused of reсeiving USD 2 million payment to secure illicit deal
Russia's Economy Minister Alexei Ulyukayev has been detained after law enforcement authorities accused him of accepting a bribe for a recent privatization deal.
Russia's Investigative Committee alleged that Ulyukayev received a payment of USD 2 million in exchange for giving a green light for state oil giant Rosneft to buy just over 50% of a smaller oil company, Bashneft.
The Investigative Committee said the minister was caught red-handed would soon be charged.
The minister has been in his job since June 2013, e is the highest-ranking Russian official to be detained since 1991.
Read also Over 20 million Russians will find themselves below poverty level in 2019
Ulyukayev could face a prison sentence of between eight and 15 years, if found guilty.
Rosneft, which is controlled by the Russian government, bought 50% of Bashneft for 330bn roubles (USD 5bn) in October.
Russia's Economy Minister detained over bribery allegations
(Le ministre russe de l'Economie a été arrêté pour corruption)
Russian Economy Minister Alexei Ulyukayev walks before a State Council meeting in the Kremlin in Moscow, Russia (AP photo)
Alexei Ulyukayev is accused of reсeiving USD 2 million payment to secure illicit deal
Russia's Economy Minister Alexei Ulyukayev has been detained after law enforcement authorities accused him of accepting a bribe for a recent privatization deal.
Russia's Investigative Committee alleged that Ulyukayev received a payment of USD 2 million in exchange for giving a green light for state oil giant Rosneft to buy just over 50% of a smaller oil company, Bashneft.
The Investigative Committee said the minister was caught red-handed would soon be charged.
The minister has been in his job since June 2013, e is the highest-ranking Russian official to be detained since 1991.
Read also Over 20 million Russians will find themselves below poverty level in 2019
Ulyukayev could face a prison sentence of between eight and 15 years, if found guilty.
Rosneft, which is controlled by the Russian government, bought 50% of Bashneft for 330bn roubles (USD 5bn) in October.
Александр- Messages : 5390
Date d'inscription : 23/03/2010
Localisation : Leuven, België
Re: Et en Russie !
The Kremlin's Trojan Horses
C'est un pdf de 34 pages intéressantes.
C'est un pdf de 34 pages intéressantes.
Александр- Messages : 5390
Date d'inscription : 23/03/2010
Localisation : Leuven, België
Re: Et en Russie !
Comment se "dédouaner" avant même d'être condamné?
Le guébiste a la réponse:
Russia declines to ratify International Criminal Court Statute
Michel Porro/Getty Images
MOSCOW, November 16. /TASS/. Russia has no intention to become a member of the Rome Statute, which is the basic document establishing the International Criminal Court (ICC), according to the relevant resolution signed by Russian President Vladimir Putin and posted on the government’s legal information web portal on Wednesday.
Under the president’s resolution, Russia’s Foreign Ministry will send the relevant notice to the UN Secretary-General.
The Rome Statute (The ICC Charter) was developed with Russia’s participation and adopted by the UN Diplomatic Conference of Plenipotentiaries in Rome on July 17, 1998. It entered into force on July 1, 2002 and started operating in 2003. Russia signed the document on September 13, 2000.
The ICC is a judicial body called upon to administer justice on behalf of the entire international community against persons guilty of committing especially grave crimes: genocide, aggression, crimes against humanity and war crimes. Each of these definitions is interpreted differently by the judicial law of different countries but the states that join the ICC Charter confirm that they understand them in the same way.
Le tour est joué
Russia initiates prosecuting its citizen who fought for Ukraine in Donbas
A member of a far-right youth group called Right Anarchist, prepares to shoot his Kalashnikov in a makeshift camp organized by the ultra-nationalist Eurasian Youth Union, on the outskirts of Moscow, Russia (AP photo)
Dmitry Fedotov is accused of being a mercenary
The Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation opened a criminal case against a Russian national who had fought on Ukraine's side in the Donbas war.
The investigators accuse Dmitry Fedotov of mersenarism and participating in warfare, which is a punishable offence in the Russian legislation, the UNIAN agency reports.
Read also Russian ‘Smerch' cluster munition fired on Ukrainian village (photos, map)
In April 2014, Dmitry Fedotov left his family in his hometown of Kingisepp near St. Petersburgh and arrived in Kyiv to join the anti-government rallies in Ukraine. Later, he trained at the Aidar volunteer battalion camp and then participated in combat against the pro-Russian troops in Donbas.
Russian officials accuse him of participation in war for the purpose of benefication.
Read also Russia keeps arresting ‘Ukrainian spies' in Crimea
At the same time, the Russian authorities contradict this law by inciting its citizens to join the Kremlin-backed illegal combat units fighting against Ukraine in Donbas. In pro-Kremlin media, Russian mercenaries fighting against Ukraine are usually called home guards or volunteer militia fighters.
Tens of thousands of the Russian nationals are participaing in Donbas conflict, in both Russian army contingent and irregular combat units, holding a commanding positions.
Le guébiste a la réponse:
Russia declines to ratify International Criminal Court Statute
Michel Porro/Getty Images
MOSCOW, November 16. /TASS/. Russia has no intention to become a member of the Rome Statute, which is the basic document establishing the International Criminal Court (ICC), according to the relevant resolution signed by Russian President Vladimir Putin and posted on the government’s legal information web portal on Wednesday.
Under the president’s resolution, Russia’s Foreign Ministry will send the relevant notice to the UN Secretary-General.
The Rome Statute (The ICC Charter) was developed with Russia’s participation and adopted by the UN Diplomatic Conference of Plenipotentiaries in Rome on July 17, 1998. It entered into force on July 1, 2002 and started operating in 2003. Russia signed the document on September 13, 2000.
The ICC is a judicial body called upon to administer justice on behalf of the entire international community against persons guilty of committing especially grave crimes: genocide, aggression, crimes against humanity and war crimes. Each of these definitions is interpreted differently by the judicial law of different countries but the states that join the ICC Charter confirm that they understand them in the same way.
Le tour est joué
Russia initiates prosecuting its citizen who fought for Ukraine in Donbas
A member of a far-right youth group called Right Anarchist, prepares to shoot his Kalashnikov in a makeshift camp organized by the ultra-nationalist Eurasian Youth Union, on the outskirts of Moscow, Russia (AP photo)
Dmitry Fedotov is accused of being a mercenary
The Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation opened a criminal case against a Russian national who had fought on Ukraine's side in the Donbas war.
The investigators accuse Dmitry Fedotov of mersenarism and participating in warfare, which is a punishable offence in the Russian legislation, the UNIAN agency reports.
Read also Russian ‘Smerch' cluster munition fired on Ukrainian village (photos, map)
In April 2014, Dmitry Fedotov left his family in his hometown of Kingisepp near St. Petersburgh and arrived in Kyiv to join the anti-government rallies in Ukraine. Later, he trained at the Aidar volunteer battalion camp and then participated in combat against the pro-Russian troops in Donbas.
Russian officials accuse him of participation in war for the purpose of benefication.
Read also Russia keeps arresting ‘Ukrainian spies' in Crimea
At the same time, the Russian authorities contradict this law by inciting its citizens to join the Kremlin-backed illegal combat units fighting against Ukraine in Donbas. In pro-Kremlin media, Russian mercenaries fighting against Ukraine are usually called home guards or volunteer militia fighters.
Tens of thousands of the Russian nationals are participaing in Donbas conflict, in both Russian army contingent and irregular combat units, holding a commanding positions.
Александр- Messages : 5390
Date d'inscription : 23/03/2010
Localisation : Leuven, België
Re: Et en Russie !
Александр a écrit:Comment se "dédouaner" avant même d'être condamné?
Le guébiste a la réponse:
Russia declines to ratify International Criminal Court Statute
Michel Porro/Getty Images
MOSCOW, November 16. /TASS/. Russia has no intention to become a member of the Rome Statute, which is the basic document establishing the International Criminal Court (ICC), according to the relevant resolution signed by Russian President Vladimir Putin and posted on the government’s legal information web portal on Wednesday.
Under the president’s resolution, Russia’s Foreign Ministry will send the relevant notice to the UN Secretary-General.
The Rome Statute (The ICC Charter) was developed with Russia’s participation and adopted by the UN Diplomatic Conference of Plenipotentiaries in Rome on July 17, 1998. It entered into force on July 1, 2002 and started operating in 2003. Russia signed the document on September 13, 2000.
The ICC is a judicial body called upon to administer justice on behalf of the entire international community against persons guilty of committing especially grave crimes: genocide, aggression, crimes against humanity and war crimes. Each of these definitions is interpreted differently by the judicial law of different countries but the states that join the ICC Charter confirm that they understand them in the same way.
Le tour est joué
Décision parfaitement légale ! D'ailleurs, la Gambie s'en est officiellement retirée, tandis que l'Afrique du Sud et le Burundi ont annoncé qu'ils allaient en faire de même.
Tout le problème provient du refus des Etats-Unis d'accepter la création d'une telle juridiction si l'acte fondateur n'exonérait pas les citoyens américains de sa juridiction. Ce sont donc les Etats-Unis qui ont généré la création de ce statut bancal de la CPI.
Si, au lieu de se plier devant les exigences américaines, les Etats fondateur de la CPI (essentiellement l'UE) avaient créé cette juridiction en disposant que toute personne (quelle que soit sa nationalité) trouvée sur le territoire des Etats fondateurs de la CPI pouvait être jugée par la CPI, nous n'en serions pas là ! Mais quand on préfère trouver des arrangements politiciens sur des principes aussi fondamentaux, cela a fâcheusement tendance à revenir en pleine gueule comme un boomerang au moment où l'on ne s'y attend pas.
La CPI est un traité "à la carte", dans lequel on entre et on sort comme des toilettes...
Thuramir- Messages : 3677
Date d'inscription : 11/07/2010
Localisation : Bruxelles
Re: Et en Russie !
Bah, pas grave, la Belgique s'est instaurée le droit de juger les crimes contre l'humanité, cfr les jugements concernant le Rwanda.
Poutine n'a qu'a bien se tenir.
Poutine n'a qu'a bien se tenir.
Re: Et en Russie !
Matt a écrit:Bah, pas grave, la Belgique s'est instaurée le droit de juger les crimes contre l'humanité, cfr les jugements concernant le Rwanda.
Poutine n'a qu'a bien se tenir.
Oui, oui, c'est cela... Je me permets de te citer le texte de la loi belge qui dispose que : « Les poursuites, en ce compris l'instruction, ne peuvent être engagées qu'à la requête du procureur fédéral qui apprécie les plaintes éventuelles ».
Quand tu auras convaincu le procureur fédéral belge d’engager des poursuites en Belgique contre Poutine, tu reviendras nous faire signe ?
Thuramir- Messages : 3677
Date d'inscription : 11/07/2010
Localisation : Bruxelles
Re: Et en Russie !
C'était bien l'objet de mon post: l'absurde . . . Si tu ne la pas capté . . .
Par contre, la Russie est en train de se faire agrafer de tous côté.
Comment va réagir le guébiste?
Par contre, la Russie est en train de se faire agrafer de tous côté.
Comment va réagir le guébiste?
Re: Et en Russie !
Réaction?
Russia violates maritime law by exploring annexed part of Azov Sea shelf – border guards
Ukrainian Border Guard Service spokesman Oleh Slobodian says Russia continues violating the rules of international maritime law by exploring the shelf of the annexed part of the Sea of Azov for possible drilling.
”Russia continues violating the rules of international maritime law and carries out illegal business activities in the annexed parts of the Azov and Black Seas,” he said at a briefing in Kyiv, according to an UNIAN correspondent.
”From October to November, Ukrainian border guards observed the Dolphin diving support vessel belonging to Chernomorneftegaz, an oil and gas producer of the self-proclaimed authorities of Crimea, conducting geological exploration in the Sea of Azov. Namely, they were examining the seabed and collecting soil samples to study the shelf in that area for future drilling,” Slobodian said.
Pas de russes en Ukraine hein!!
Putin awards medals to active Russian military after their return from Donbas war
Pourquoi ces médailles?
A journalist investigation provides a significant amount of evidence that proves direct participation of Russia`s 61st Separate Naval Infantry Brigade in the Ukrainian conflict near Luhansk in the summer and fall of 2014.
About dozen of servicemen were identified during the journalist investigation`s OSINT efforts, many of whom were awarded medals for their participation in combat by decree of the Russian president after returning home, and continued serving as active servicemen, Bellingcat writes in its report citing the initial investigation by Askai707.
See also: BBC: Russian ex-police chief Antyufeyev leads Donetsk rebels
A thorough analysis of a wide range of photographs and videos available on social networks, including geolocation marks and background verification, provided for a precise identification of the Russian troops deployed in Ukraine, with
On one of the photographs, the following servicemen of Russia`s 61st Separate Naval Infantry Brigade can be seen: Vladimir Stach, Sergey Antonkin, Tofik Sultaliev, Igor Bushuev, Grigory Kislyuk, and Gennady Fedosov.
As UNIAN reported earlier, Eliot Higgins, the founder of the Bellingcat investigative group, said it was the commander of the Russian military who was responsible for sending military equipment into Ukraine, including the Buk surface-to-air missile system that downed flight MH17 in Donbas in July 2014.
See also: Russian aggression against Ukraine, international law and global security: 25 key theses
Russian Media Reports Russian Diplomats In Touch With Trump Transition Team
Deputy director of the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Mikhail Bogdanov informed the Russian media agency Interfax on Thursday that he and his colleagues have already initiated contacts with members of president-elect Trump’s transition team with regards to the current events in the Syrian conflict. He expressed hope for open and constructive engagement with president-elect’s team.
In a related development earlier, president Putin’s press secretary, Dmitriy Peskov has informed the Russian media that President Putin and president-elect Trump have discussed a possible meeting soon after the inauguration.
Foreign Policy: How World War III could begin in Latvia
Four years ago, I predicted Russia's invasion of Ukraine. Here's my next prediction, which by now will strike many people as obvious: The Baltics are next, and will pose one of President-elect Donald Trump's first and greatest tests. It probably won't take the form of an overt invasion, Paul Miller wrote in his article published on Foreign Policy on November 16.
Reuters
Russian President Vladimir Putin has a clear goal and a grand strategy. But it's not the most realists perceive. Some argue that he is driven by fundamentally rational, defensive goals: NATO expansion appeared threatening and Russia is pushing back. The West expanded its sphere of influence at Russia's expense, and Russia is now retaliating. That's why the "Ukraine Crisis Is the West's Fault," according to John Mearsheimer, the article says.
As with most academic realist analysis, this is nonsense. Putin is not driven by cold calculations of rational self-interest, because no human is. We are not Vulcans. We are driven by our perception of self-interest as shaped and defined by our deeper presuppositions and beliefs — which is to say, our ideology or religion.
Putin believes hegemony over Russia's near-abroad is necessary for Russian security because of his beliefs about Russian nationhood and historical destiny. Putin (and, perhaps more so, his inner circle) isn't merely nationalist. The Kremlin appears to be driven by peculiar form of Russian nationalism infused with religion, destiny, and messianism. In this narrative, Russia is the guardian of Orthodox Christianity and has a mission to protect and expand the faith.
A truly rational Russia would not see NATO and European Union expansion as a threat, because the liberal order is open and inclusive and would actually augment Russia's security and prosperity. But, for Putin and other Russians who see the world through the lens of Russian religious nationalism, the West is inherently a threat because of its degeneracy and globalism.
In this view, NATO is not the benign guarantor of liberal order in Europe, but the hostile agent of the degenerate West and the primary obstacle to Russian greatness. Thus, Putin's grand strategy requires breaking NATO. Specifically, he must make the Article V mutual security guarantee meaningless.
Putin has already succeeded in eroding NATO's credibility. His last two targets, Georgia and Ukraine, were not NATO members, but in 2008 had been explicitly and publicly assured that they would be granted Membership Action Plans, the roadmap to membership. Russia clearly and publicly opposed any steps towards NATO membership for both countries — and then proceeded to invade them.
Russia's invasions of Georgia and Ukraine created disputed territories — South Ossetia, Abkhazia, and Crimea — occupied by Russian soldiers. No country will ever join NATO while being partly occupied by Russia.
Putin now has the most favorable international environment since the end of the Cold War to continue Russian expansion. European unity is fractured. Alliance members are questioning the value of the mutual security pact. And the next American president seems openly favorable to Russia and ready to excuse Russia's irresponsible behavior.
Putin's next step is more dangerous than the previous ones, because he is likely to move into the Baltics, which are NATO members. He will not send large formations of uniformed Russian soldiers over the international border — even the most cautious NATO members will not ignore an overt conventional invasion.
Instead, Putin will instigate an ambiguous militarized crisis using deniable proxies, probably in the next two years. Perhaps Russian-speaking Latvians or Estonians (a quarter of Latvians and Estonians are ethnically Russian) will begin rioting, protesting for their rights, claiming to be persecuted, asking for "international protection." A suspiciously well-armed and well trained "Popular Front for the Liberation of the Russian Baltics" will appear. A few high-profile assassinations and bombings bring the Baltics to the edge of civil war. A low-grade insurgency may emerge.
Russia will block all United Nations Security Council resolutions, but will offer its unilateral services as a peacekeeper. The North Atlantic Council will meet. Poland will lead the effort to invoke Article V, declare the Baltics under Russian attack, and rally collective defense against Russian aggression. The Germans and French will fiercely resist. Everyone will look to the United States to see which way the alliance leader tilts.
If the Alliance does not invoke Article V, NATO's mutual security guarantee becomes functionally meaningless. No alliance member will put any faith in the treaty to guarantee its own defense against Russia in the future. The geopolitical clock will rewind to 1939. Some Eastern European states may choose to bandwagon with Russia. Others, starting with Poland, will begin arming to the teeth. Putin's dream of a fractured West and an open field in Europe will be realized.
But if the Alliance does invoke Article V, it will be tantamount to a declaration of war by the West against Russia. And that's when Trump will have to decide if the defense of Latvia is worth risking World War III.
Oleksandr Kolchenko is spending a 3rd birthday in Russian prison for opposing annexation of Crimea
Kolchenko birthday
Ukrainian civic activist Oleksandr Kolchenko is turning 27 on Nov 26, his third birthday in Russian captivity. The need for letters of support and also public attention is now even more urgent with Russia having just prevented real human rights activists from visiting him. Kolchenko, renowned filmmaker Oleg Sentsov and other Ukrainian political prisoners are isolated and therefore in danger, making all letters and appeals an important message to Moscow as well that it is being watched.
Kolchenko, Sentsov and two other opponents of Russia’s invasion and occupation of their native Crimea (Gennady Afanasyev and Oleksiy Chirniy), were arrested in May 2014. They were held incommunicado, then taken illegally to Moscow and only allowed to see lawyers after several weeks, almost certainly to hide the signs of torture.
It was only then that the FSB finally came out with quite extraordinary charges, claiming that Sentsov had been the mastermind behind a ‘Right Sector terrorist plot’ and that the other three were involved in and planning acts of terrorism.
It is likely that the fading marks of torture were the main reason, however it is not impossible that the FSB also needed something to back Russia’s increasingly preposterous allegations about the right-wing Ukrainian nationalist Right Sector movement which came to the fore during Euromaidan. Russian President Vladimir Putin and all government-controlled media had used false claims about a ‘fascist junta’ in Kyiv as an attempt to justify Russia’s invasion of Crimea, and military aggression in Eastern Ukraine. ‘Right Sector’ was particularly demonized and its role seriously exaggerated.
The Ukrainian presidential elections on May 25 were a terrible blow to the Kremlin and Russian propaganda. Not only had Ukrainians succeeded in uniting behind one candidate, the elected President Petro Poroshenko, but they also demonstrated how little support the far-right in fact had. The candidates representing Right Sector and the far-right Svoboda party could only muster 2% for both.
Russian TV reacted to this initially by lying, and producing a purported ‘real victory’ for the Right Sector candidate, but this could only be a temporary measure. Willy-nilly, the truth would out.
5 days later, the FSB came up with their ‘Right Sector terrorist plot’ in Crimea. Afanasyev and Chirniy had both provided ‘confessions’ under torture (and received shorter sentences). These were then used to justify the FSB’s grandiose claims about the alleged ‘plot’.
There was no proof of any plot, nor anything that constituted ‘terrorism’. The charges were especially absurd given that Kolchenko is a committed anarchist with pronounced left-wing views, and it was ludicrous to cast him as a Right Sector ‘plotter’. Sentsov was also seriously miscast, being an internationally recognized film director and a father bringing up two young children, one with special needs.
Kolchenko had taken part in one act of protest in April 2014. A Molotov cocktail was thrown at the entrance of an organization which had played a major and dodgy role in supporting Russia’s invasion. Thrown at night when nobody would be hurt. Afanasyev and Chirniy had taken part in two such protests.
Sentsov had done nothing at all, and the monstrous 20-year sentence only confirmed his allegations from the beginning of torture and threats that if he didn’t provide the ‘testimony’ they demanded, that he would be made the ringleader and ‘rot in prison’.
Russia imposed strict secrecy and so the lack of any evidence, while assumed from the outset, was only confirmed from the first day of the trial in Rostov of Kolchenko and Sentsov who had dismissed the absurd charges from the outset.
Both men were almost immediately declared political prisoners by the Memorial Human Rights Centre. Afanasyev was also recognized as a political prisoner after he had the courage to stand up in court on August 31, and retract all testimony as given under torture.
The court ignored the absurdity of the whole ‘case’ and Afanasyev’s retraction, and sentenced Sentsov to 20 years, Kolchenko to 10. The two men stood arm in arm as the sentence was being read out, singing Ukraine’s national anthem.
There have since been cynical moves pretending willingness to consider the men’s extradition. These ran parallel with continued attempts to force Russian citizenship on them. Even Russia’s outgoing Ombudsperson Ella Panfilova acknowledged that the men are Ukrainian and the indictment gives only their Ukrainian citizenship, yet Russia has now claimed that they cannot be released. The reason is a record-breaker in cynicism. The two men, whose persecution for opposition to Russia’s invasion is internationally recognized , are supposed to have ‘automatically’ become Russian because of that invasion.
Please write to both Oleksandr (Sasha) and Oleg!
Just cut and paste the addresses. If writing in Russian is a problem, there is a ‘crib’ below which you can also just add. Photos or similar would be nice, and please avoid anything political or about their case since that will stop the letters getting through.
Oleksandr Kolchenko
Привет и с днём рождения! Желаю Вам крепкого здоровья, мужества и счастья. Надеюсь на скорое освобождение.
Мы о Вас помним. Держитесь!
(Happy Birthday! Wishing you health, courage and happiness, and that you will soon be released. You are not forgotten. [The last word is like ‘hang in there’)
Address:
456612, Челябинская обл., Копейск, ул. Кемеровская, 20, ИК-6, Александру Кольченко, 1989 г.р.
Oleg Sentsov
Добрый день,
Желаю Вам здоровья, мужества и терпения, надеюсь на скорое освобождение.
Мы о Вас помним. Держитесь!
[Hello, I wish you good health, courage and patience and hope that you will soon be released. You are not forgotten. [The last word is like ‘hang in there’)]
Address
677004, Республика Саха (Якутия), г. Якутск, ул. Очиченко, 25, ФКУ ИК-1
Сенцову Олегу Геннадьевичу, 1976 г.р.
It is not quite clear where Oleksiy Chirniy is at present – his address will be added as soon as it becomes known.
PLEASE also write to politicians in your country and ask them to demand that Russia honours its commitments and releases the Ukrainians it is holding hostage.
Russia violates maritime law by exploring annexed part of Azov Sea shelf – border guards
Ukrainian Border Guard Service spokesman Oleh Slobodian says Russia continues violating the rules of international maritime law by exploring the shelf of the annexed part of the Sea of Azov for possible drilling.
”Russia continues violating the rules of international maritime law and carries out illegal business activities in the annexed parts of the Azov and Black Seas,” he said at a briefing in Kyiv, according to an UNIAN correspondent.
”From October to November, Ukrainian border guards observed the Dolphin diving support vessel belonging to Chernomorneftegaz, an oil and gas producer of the self-proclaimed authorities of Crimea, conducting geological exploration in the Sea of Azov. Namely, they were examining the seabed and collecting soil samples to study the shelf in that area for future drilling,” Slobodian said.
Pas de russes en Ukraine hein!!
Putin awards medals to active Russian military after their return from Donbas war
Pourquoi ces médailles?
A journalist investigation provides a significant amount of evidence that proves direct participation of Russia`s 61st Separate Naval Infantry Brigade in the Ukrainian conflict near Luhansk in the summer and fall of 2014.
About dozen of servicemen were identified during the journalist investigation`s OSINT efforts, many of whom were awarded medals for their participation in combat by decree of the Russian president after returning home, and continued serving as active servicemen, Bellingcat writes in its report citing the initial investigation by Askai707.
See also: BBC: Russian ex-police chief Antyufeyev leads Donetsk rebels
A thorough analysis of a wide range of photographs and videos available on social networks, including geolocation marks and background verification, provided for a precise identification of the Russian troops deployed in Ukraine, with
On one of the photographs, the following servicemen of Russia`s 61st Separate Naval Infantry Brigade can be seen: Vladimir Stach, Sergey Antonkin, Tofik Sultaliev, Igor Bushuev, Grigory Kislyuk, and Gennady Fedosov.
As UNIAN reported earlier, Eliot Higgins, the founder of the Bellingcat investigative group, said it was the commander of the Russian military who was responsible for sending military equipment into Ukraine, including the Buk surface-to-air missile system that downed flight MH17 in Donbas in July 2014.
See also: Russian aggression against Ukraine, international law and global security: 25 key theses
Russian Media Reports Russian Diplomats In Touch With Trump Transition Team
Deputy director of the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Mikhail Bogdanov informed the Russian media agency Interfax on Thursday that he and his colleagues have already initiated contacts with members of president-elect Trump’s transition team with regards to the current events in the Syrian conflict. He expressed hope for open and constructive engagement with president-elect’s team.
In a related development earlier, president Putin’s press secretary, Dmitriy Peskov has informed the Russian media that President Putin and president-elect Trump have discussed a possible meeting soon after the inauguration.
Foreign Policy: How World War III could begin in Latvia
Four years ago, I predicted Russia's invasion of Ukraine. Here's my next prediction, which by now will strike many people as obvious: The Baltics are next, and will pose one of President-elect Donald Trump's first and greatest tests. It probably won't take the form of an overt invasion, Paul Miller wrote in his article published on Foreign Policy on November 16.
Reuters
Russian President Vladimir Putin has a clear goal and a grand strategy. But it's not the most realists perceive. Some argue that he is driven by fundamentally rational, defensive goals: NATO expansion appeared threatening and Russia is pushing back. The West expanded its sphere of influence at Russia's expense, and Russia is now retaliating. That's why the "Ukraine Crisis Is the West's Fault," according to John Mearsheimer, the article says.
As with most academic realist analysis, this is nonsense. Putin is not driven by cold calculations of rational self-interest, because no human is. We are not Vulcans. We are driven by our perception of self-interest as shaped and defined by our deeper presuppositions and beliefs — which is to say, our ideology or religion.
Putin believes hegemony over Russia's near-abroad is necessary for Russian security because of his beliefs about Russian nationhood and historical destiny. Putin (and, perhaps more so, his inner circle) isn't merely nationalist. The Kremlin appears to be driven by peculiar form of Russian nationalism infused with religion, destiny, and messianism. In this narrative, Russia is the guardian of Orthodox Christianity and has a mission to protect and expand the faith.
A truly rational Russia would not see NATO and European Union expansion as a threat, because the liberal order is open and inclusive and would actually augment Russia's security and prosperity. But, for Putin and other Russians who see the world through the lens of Russian religious nationalism, the West is inherently a threat because of its degeneracy and globalism.
In this view, NATO is not the benign guarantor of liberal order in Europe, but the hostile agent of the degenerate West and the primary obstacle to Russian greatness. Thus, Putin's grand strategy requires breaking NATO. Specifically, he must make the Article V mutual security guarantee meaningless.
Putin has already succeeded in eroding NATO's credibility. His last two targets, Georgia and Ukraine, were not NATO members, but in 2008 had been explicitly and publicly assured that they would be granted Membership Action Plans, the roadmap to membership. Russia clearly and publicly opposed any steps towards NATO membership for both countries — and then proceeded to invade them.
Russia's invasions of Georgia and Ukraine created disputed territories — South Ossetia, Abkhazia, and Crimea — occupied by Russian soldiers. No country will ever join NATO while being partly occupied by Russia.
Putin now has the most favorable international environment since the end of the Cold War to continue Russian expansion. European unity is fractured. Alliance members are questioning the value of the mutual security pact. And the next American president seems openly favorable to Russia and ready to excuse Russia's irresponsible behavior.
Putin's next step is more dangerous than the previous ones, because he is likely to move into the Baltics, which are NATO members. He will not send large formations of uniformed Russian soldiers over the international border — even the most cautious NATO members will not ignore an overt conventional invasion.
Instead, Putin will instigate an ambiguous militarized crisis using deniable proxies, probably in the next two years. Perhaps Russian-speaking Latvians or Estonians (a quarter of Latvians and Estonians are ethnically Russian) will begin rioting, protesting for their rights, claiming to be persecuted, asking for "international protection." A suspiciously well-armed and well trained "Popular Front for the Liberation of the Russian Baltics" will appear. A few high-profile assassinations and bombings bring the Baltics to the edge of civil war. A low-grade insurgency may emerge.
Russia will block all United Nations Security Council resolutions, but will offer its unilateral services as a peacekeeper. The North Atlantic Council will meet. Poland will lead the effort to invoke Article V, declare the Baltics under Russian attack, and rally collective defense against Russian aggression. The Germans and French will fiercely resist. Everyone will look to the United States to see which way the alliance leader tilts.
If the Alliance does not invoke Article V, NATO's mutual security guarantee becomes functionally meaningless. No alliance member will put any faith in the treaty to guarantee its own defense against Russia in the future. The geopolitical clock will rewind to 1939. Some Eastern European states may choose to bandwagon with Russia. Others, starting with Poland, will begin arming to the teeth. Putin's dream of a fractured West and an open field in Europe will be realized.
But if the Alliance does invoke Article V, it will be tantamount to a declaration of war by the West against Russia. And that's when Trump will have to decide if the defense of Latvia is worth risking World War III.
Oleksandr Kolchenko is spending a 3rd birthday in Russian prison for opposing annexation of Crimea
Kolchenko birthday
Ukrainian civic activist Oleksandr Kolchenko is turning 27 on Nov 26, his third birthday in Russian captivity. The need for letters of support and also public attention is now even more urgent with Russia having just prevented real human rights activists from visiting him. Kolchenko, renowned filmmaker Oleg Sentsov and other Ukrainian political prisoners are isolated and therefore in danger, making all letters and appeals an important message to Moscow as well that it is being watched.
Kolchenko, Sentsov and two other opponents of Russia’s invasion and occupation of their native Crimea (Gennady Afanasyev and Oleksiy Chirniy), were arrested in May 2014. They were held incommunicado, then taken illegally to Moscow and only allowed to see lawyers after several weeks, almost certainly to hide the signs of torture.
It was only then that the FSB finally came out with quite extraordinary charges, claiming that Sentsov had been the mastermind behind a ‘Right Sector terrorist plot’ and that the other three were involved in and planning acts of terrorism.
It is likely that the fading marks of torture were the main reason, however it is not impossible that the FSB also needed something to back Russia’s increasingly preposterous allegations about the right-wing Ukrainian nationalist Right Sector movement which came to the fore during Euromaidan. Russian President Vladimir Putin and all government-controlled media had used false claims about a ‘fascist junta’ in Kyiv as an attempt to justify Russia’s invasion of Crimea, and military aggression in Eastern Ukraine. ‘Right Sector’ was particularly demonized and its role seriously exaggerated.
The Ukrainian presidential elections on May 25 were a terrible blow to the Kremlin and Russian propaganda. Not only had Ukrainians succeeded in uniting behind one candidate, the elected President Petro Poroshenko, but they also demonstrated how little support the far-right in fact had. The candidates representing Right Sector and the far-right Svoboda party could only muster 2% for both.
Russian TV reacted to this initially by lying, and producing a purported ‘real victory’ for the Right Sector candidate, but this could only be a temporary measure. Willy-nilly, the truth would out.
5 days later, the FSB came up with their ‘Right Sector terrorist plot’ in Crimea. Afanasyev and Chirniy had both provided ‘confessions’ under torture (and received shorter sentences). These were then used to justify the FSB’s grandiose claims about the alleged ‘plot’.
There was no proof of any plot, nor anything that constituted ‘terrorism’. The charges were especially absurd given that Kolchenko is a committed anarchist with pronounced left-wing views, and it was ludicrous to cast him as a Right Sector ‘plotter’. Sentsov was also seriously miscast, being an internationally recognized film director and a father bringing up two young children, one with special needs.
Kolchenko had taken part in one act of protest in April 2014. A Molotov cocktail was thrown at the entrance of an organization which had played a major and dodgy role in supporting Russia’s invasion. Thrown at night when nobody would be hurt. Afanasyev and Chirniy had taken part in two such protests.
Sentsov had done nothing at all, and the monstrous 20-year sentence only confirmed his allegations from the beginning of torture and threats that if he didn’t provide the ‘testimony’ they demanded, that he would be made the ringleader and ‘rot in prison’.
Russia imposed strict secrecy and so the lack of any evidence, while assumed from the outset, was only confirmed from the first day of the trial in Rostov of Kolchenko and Sentsov who had dismissed the absurd charges from the outset.
Both men were almost immediately declared political prisoners by the Memorial Human Rights Centre. Afanasyev was also recognized as a political prisoner after he had the courage to stand up in court on August 31, and retract all testimony as given under torture.
The court ignored the absurdity of the whole ‘case’ and Afanasyev’s retraction, and sentenced Sentsov to 20 years, Kolchenko to 10. The two men stood arm in arm as the sentence was being read out, singing Ukraine’s national anthem.
There have since been cynical moves pretending willingness to consider the men’s extradition. These ran parallel with continued attempts to force Russian citizenship on them. Even Russia’s outgoing Ombudsperson Ella Panfilova acknowledged that the men are Ukrainian and the indictment gives only their Ukrainian citizenship, yet Russia has now claimed that they cannot be released. The reason is a record-breaker in cynicism. The two men, whose persecution for opposition to Russia’s invasion is internationally recognized , are supposed to have ‘automatically’ become Russian because of that invasion.
Please write to both Oleksandr (Sasha) and Oleg!
Just cut and paste the addresses. If writing in Russian is a problem, there is a ‘crib’ below which you can also just add. Photos or similar would be nice, and please avoid anything political or about their case since that will stop the letters getting through.
Oleksandr Kolchenko
Привет и с днём рождения! Желаю Вам крепкого здоровья, мужества и счастья. Надеюсь на скорое освобождение.
Мы о Вас помним. Держитесь!
(Happy Birthday! Wishing you health, courage and happiness, and that you will soon be released. You are not forgotten. [The last word is like ‘hang in there’)
Address:
456612, Челябинская обл., Копейск, ул. Кемеровская, 20, ИК-6, Александру Кольченко, 1989 г.р.
Oleg Sentsov
Добрый день,
Желаю Вам здоровья, мужества и терпения, надеюсь на скорое освобождение.
Мы о Вас помним. Держитесь!
[Hello, I wish you good health, courage and patience and hope that you will soon be released. You are not forgotten. [The last word is like ‘hang in there’)]
Address
677004, Республика Саха (Якутия), г. Якутск, ул. Очиченко, 25, ФКУ ИК-1
Сенцову Олегу Геннадьевичу, 1976 г.р.
It is not quite clear where Oleksiy Chirniy is at present – his address will be added as soon as it becomes known.
PLEASE also write to politicians in your country and ask them to demand that Russia honours its commitments and releases the Ukrainians it is holding hostage.
Александр- Messages : 5390
Date d'inscription : 23/03/2010
Localisation : Leuven, België
Re: Et en Russie !
Tchétchénie : le président veut interdire les danses "inappropriées" aux mariages
Ramzan Kadyrov veut également imposer les habits traditionnels lors des noces.
franceinfo
publié le 27/10/2016 | 19:59
Ramzan Kadyrov a trouvé un nouveau combat. Le président tchétchène veut mettre en place des milices pour contrôler le déroulement des mariages, rapporte The Guardian (en anglais), jeudi 27 octobre. Il souhaite réprimer l'ivresse (la vente d'alcool étant de toute façon illégale) ainsi que les danses "inappropriées". En clair, seules les danses traditionnelles seront acceptées.
Les mariages contrôlés seront tous ceux qui se déroulent à l'extérieur des maisons, c'est-à-dire dans des restaurants ou des salles de réception, précise The Guardian, qui cite l'agence de presse russe Tass. Par ailleurs, les tirs d'armes à feu seront interdits. La mariée ne sera pas autorisée à danser et les vêtements devront aussi être traditionnels.
Depuis plusieurs années, les ONG et défenseurs des droits de l'homme s'inquiètent de la situation en Tchétchénie. Les droits des femmes y sont régulièrement bafoués.
Ramzan Kadyrov veut également imposer les habits traditionnels lors des noces.
franceinfo
publié le 27/10/2016 | 19:59
Ramzan Kadyrov a trouvé un nouveau combat. Le président tchétchène veut mettre en place des milices pour contrôler le déroulement des mariages, rapporte The Guardian (en anglais), jeudi 27 octobre. Il souhaite réprimer l'ivresse (la vente d'alcool étant de toute façon illégale) ainsi que les danses "inappropriées". En clair, seules les danses traditionnelles seront acceptées.
Les mariages contrôlés seront tous ceux qui se déroulent à l'extérieur des maisons, c'est-à-dire dans des restaurants ou des salles de réception, précise The Guardian, qui cite l'agence de presse russe Tass. Par ailleurs, les tirs d'armes à feu seront interdits. La mariée ne sera pas autorisée à danser et les vêtements devront aussi être traditionnels.
Depuis plusieurs années, les ONG et défenseurs des droits de l'homme s'inquiètent de la situation en Tchétchénie. Les droits des femmes y sont régulièrement bafoués.
Caduce62- Messages : 15239
Date d'inscription : 05/01/2010
Age : 61
Localisation : chez les Ch'tis
Re: Et en Russie !
Putin moves his missiles in new threat to Europe – The Times
(Poutine déplace ses missiles dans une nouvelle menace pour l'Europe - The Times)
Russian nuclear missiles have Berlin within range (by Daily Chicken)
Russia accuses NATO of military expansion reasoning its own aggressive actions, Tom Parfitt, Catherine Philp, Bruno Waterfield, and Michael Savage state in today's The Times article
Russia is deploying short-range ballistic missiles to its western European enclave, it emerged yesterday as President Putin threatened "counter-measures" against NATO expansion.
A senior Russian MP said that Moscow would permanently station the nuclear-capable missiles in Kaliningrad, a region between the NATO states of Poland and Lithuania, in retaliation for a military build-up by the alliance in eastern Europe.
John Kirby, spokesman for the US State Department, said that the deployment of the missiles was "destabilising to European security". He added: "We call on Russia to refrain from words or deeds that are inconsistent with the goal of promoting security and stability."
Read also Russia to deploy additional ground and air weapons in Kaliningrad
A Pentagon official said: "Such a deployment ... would mark an unfortunate and destabilising action. NATO's missile defence system, for which this action by Russia is purportedly a response, is not oriented toward Russia. Like all other US and NATO deployments in eastern Europe, this system is purely defensive and intended to enhance collective security."
In an interview with the film-maker Oliver Stone, broadcast in Russia last night, Mr Putin said that Moscow felt threatened by NATO expansion and would try to counter it. "Why are we reacting to Nato expansion so emotionally? We are concerned by NATO'S decision-making," he said. "We must take counter-measures, that is, strike with our missile systems the targets that in our opinion begin to threaten us."
The developments came less than two weeks after Donald Trump's victory in the US presidential election prompted concerns over the solidity of the alliance, which he has denounced as obsolete and expensive. Experts said that Russia's actions represented a challenge to Mr Trump, whose reaction could be hard to predict. "It is a dangerous moment," Igor Sutyagin, a Russia expert at the Royal United Services Institute think tank, said.
Read the full article
Putin explains why Russia reacts to NATO expansion with concern
(Poutine explique pourquoi la Russie réagit à l'expansion de l'OTAN avec préoccupation)
Russian President Vladimir Putin says the practice of decision-making at NATO raises Moscow`s concern and forces the Russians to take countermeasures.
(Poutine déplace ses missiles dans une nouvelle menace pour l'Europe - The Times)
Russian nuclear missiles have Berlin within range (by Daily Chicken)
Russia accuses NATO of military expansion reasoning its own aggressive actions, Tom Parfitt, Catherine Philp, Bruno Waterfield, and Michael Savage state in today's The Times article
Russia is deploying short-range ballistic missiles to its western European enclave, it emerged yesterday as President Putin threatened "counter-measures" against NATO expansion.
A senior Russian MP said that Moscow would permanently station the nuclear-capable missiles in Kaliningrad, a region between the NATO states of Poland and Lithuania, in retaliation for a military build-up by the alliance in eastern Europe.
John Kirby, spokesman for the US State Department, said that the deployment of the missiles was "destabilising to European security". He added: "We call on Russia to refrain from words or deeds that are inconsistent with the goal of promoting security and stability."
Read also Russia to deploy additional ground and air weapons in Kaliningrad
A Pentagon official said: "Such a deployment ... would mark an unfortunate and destabilising action. NATO's missile defence system, for which this action by Russia is purportedly a response, is not oriented toward Russia. Like all other US and NATO deployments in eastern Europe, this system is purely defensive and intended to enhance collective security."
In an interview with the film-maker Oliver Stone, broadcast in Russia last night, Mr Putin said that Moscow felt threatened by NATO expansion and would try to counter it. "Why are we reacting to Nato expansion so emotionally? We are concerned by NATO'S decision-making," he said. "We must take counter-measures, that is, strike with our missile systems the targets that in our opinion begin to threaten us."
The developments came less than two weeks after Donald Trump's victory in the US presidential election prompted concerns over the solidity of the alliance, which he has denounced as obsolete and expensive. Experts said that Russia's actions represented a challenge to Mr Trump, whose reaction could be hard to predict. "It is a dangerous moment," Igor Sutyagin, a Russia expert at the Royal United Services Institute think tank, said.
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Putin explains why Russia reacts to NATO expansion with concern
(Poutine explique pourquoi la Russie réagit à l'expansion de l'OTAN avec préoccupation)
Russian President Vladimir Putin says the practice of decision-making at NATO raises Moscow`s concern and forces the Russians to take countermeasures.
Putin said that ”whatever” could appear in these countries after joining the Alliance – missile defense systems and new military bases, and if necessary – a new missile strike system.”Why do we respond to the expansion of NATO so acutely? We are concerned about the practice of [their] decision-making. I know the way they take decisions. When a country becomes a NATO member state, it is already very difficult for it to resist the pressure from such a large country leading NATO as the United States,” RIA Novosti quoted Putin as saying.
”And what should we do? In this case, we should take countermeasures, i.e. to target our missile systems at the objects that, in our view, have become our threats. The situation is getting strained,” he said.
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Re: Et en Russie !
Et en réaction, le point de vue de deux états nordiques:
Défense : La Suède réhabilite des pièces de musée datant de la guerre froide
Dans le but d’améliorer les capacités défensives de Gotland, plus grande île du pays en mer Baltique, la Suède s’est décidée à dépoussiérer un système de défense antinavire datant de la période de la guerre froide ainsi que des véhicules Scania qui figuraient jusque-là dans des musées.
(Capture d’écran Youtube/ Försvarsmakten)
Face à une situation géopolitique de plus en plus imprévisible en Europe, l’armée suédoise a décidé qu’il était grand temps d’améliorer les défenses de l’île de Gotland, en mer baltique. Qu’importe si cela doit passer par la remise en état de pièces de musée.
La semaine dernière, l’armée suédoise s’est ainsi retrouvée à tester le bon fonctionnement de lance-missiles Kustrobotbatteri 90 capables de tirer depuis la terre des RBS-15, des missiles antinavires à longue portée, dont le guidage après lancement ne nécessite plus l’intervention du servant de la plate-forme de tir. Pour ce faire, les militaires n’ont pas hésité à demander l’assistance du constructeur aéronautique suédois SAAB ni à ressortir des véhicules Scania dont une partie avait tout bonnement été remisée dans des musées depuis la fin de guerre froide, comme nous l’apprend un récent article de The Local.
« Nous avons conduit des analyses afin de déterminer si nous serions en capacité de remettre en état un engin capable de tirer ces missiles. Il restait encore un certain nombre de camions. Nous avons également récupéré des composants de bateau lance-missiles et de vaisseaux de guerre partageant le même système de lancement », a ainsi expliqué le contre-amiral Thomas Engevall au journal suédois Dagens Nyheter.
Le ministre suédois de la Défense, Peter Hultqvist, s’est déclaré vendredi très satisfait de constater que la Suède possède de nouveau des installations capables de « tirer des missiles antinavires depuis la terre sur une longue distance ».
À en croire Mike Winnerstig, un analyste de la politique de sécurité à l’Agence suédoise de recherche de défense (FOI, Totalförsvarets forskningsinstitut) interrogé par le Dagens Nyheter, il s’agit là d’un signe fort que la Suède est bien décidée à renforcer ses capacités de défense : « La décision est nationale, mais c’est aussi une contribution suédoise aux capacités internationales de défense en mer Baltique à la suite de l’annexion de la Crimée par les Russes et l’invasion de l’Ukraine ».
"Quand on vous accueille, vous devez respecter les habitudes norvégiennes"
La Norvège est à la croisée des chemins de l’actualité mondiale. Sa Première ministre doit naviguer entre les tensions croissantes avec la Russie, la décision du Royaume-Uni de quitter l’Europe en passant par la crise des réfugiés. Elle doit même faire face à la folie planétaire du jeu Pokemon Go.
Isabelle Kumar a rencontré Erna Solberg en marge du Forum mondial pour la démocratie du Conseil de l’Europe.
Isabelle Kumar, euronews : Votre frontière avec la Russie n’est pas très longue mais vous avez récemment accepté que des troupes américaines stationnent chez vous. Cela a suscité un certain degré de mécontentement à Moscou…
Erna Solberg, Première ministre norvégienne : Cela ne m’inquiète pas plus que cela. Nous avons de bonnes relations avec la Russie sur de nombreux sujets.
Cela fait partie d’un cadre nécessaire : nous souhaitons nous assurer que nos alliés qui viennent dans notre pays puissent apprendre à combattre en période d’hiver en collaboration avec nos différentes troupes.
Mais la Russie n’apprécie trop pas de voir des troupes se rassembler à sa frontière nordique ou à l’est de l’Europe. N’y aurait-il pas là un peu de provocation?
Nous ne ressentons pas le même niveau de tension dans le nord en comparaison avec ce que nous avons vu dans les pays Baltes par exemple. Mais nous restons fermes : depuis que la Russie a enfreint le droit international en Ukraine nous continuons à soutenir le peuple ukrainien. Mais en même temps, dans le nord de l’Europe nous essayons d’entretenir de bonnes relations avec la Russie.
Vous avez construit une clôture entre la Norvège et la Russie : c’est l’une des nombreuses barrières qui ont vu le jour ces dernies mois pour enrayer l’immigration. Et apparemment c’est un succès puisque l’immigration a chuté de 95%…
Nous avons de bons échanges avec la Russie. Je pense qu’ils savaient que c‘était une question de sécurité. Ils ont déjà trois barrières avant que quiconque puisse rejoindre la Norvège.Je crois que la réduction des flux a été aussi bénéfique pour eux.
N’est-ce pas délicat d‘ériger des barrières pour empêcher les gens de venir alors qu’ils sont dans une situation désespérée?
Nous sommes l’un de ces pays qui a relocalisé le plus de réfugiés. 3100 personnes dépendant des quotas de l’UNHCR sont en partance pour la Norvège.
Nous faisons cela depuis longtemps et de manière stable. Et même si nous enregistrerons moins de personnes cette année, l’an dernier nous avons pris part à de nombreuses crises humanitaires.
Lorsqu’on a un haut niveau d‘éducation on est généralement plus enclin à la tolérance envers la diversité. Que faire pour rendre les Norvégiens plus accueillants face aux réfugiés par ce qu’on leur demande souvent de s’intégrer mais on doit aussi les accueillir…
Cela fait partie de notre système d‘éducation de savoir pourquoi les gens fuient certains pays, de savoir quelle convention les protège, quelle est notre responsabilité. Cela fait partie de notre cursus scolaire en Norvège. Maintenant il faut être clair : quand on vous accueille, vous devez respecter les habitudes norvégiennes. Vous ne pouvez pas vous dire que vous vivez encore dans votre pays d’origine en matière de droits des femmes ou être consternés quand vous voyez deux hommes s’embrasser dans la rue. Il y a des homosexuels dans notre pays, c’est normal, cela fait partie de notre société.”
Ironiquement, c’est votre ministre de l’intégration qui a suscité un brin d’indignation parce qu’elle a dit que les nouveaux migrants devaient se faire à l’idée qu’autour d’eux les gens mangent du porc ou boivent de l’alcool. J’ai l’impression que même au niveau ministériel il semble qu’on ait une approche simpliste alors que le sujet est assez complexe. Qu’en pensez-vous ?
Je ne crois par que cela soit un sujet complexe : si vous arrivez dans un pays et que vous devez travailler pour subvenir à vos besoins vous ne pouvez pas dire non à un travail dans un restaurant parce qu’on y sert du porc ou de l’alcool. Vous ne pouvez pas vous attendre à ce que la société norvégienne subvienne à vos besoins si vous refusez de travailler pour des motifs religieux.
Cela reste marginal ?
Il y a encore trop peu de femmes migrantes qui travaillent en Norvège. Souvent parce qu’elles ont beaucoup d’enfants, donc c’est déjà beaucoup de travail en soi. Mais parfois elles ne trouvent pas de travail parce qu’elles émettent des demandes qui font que cela devient encore plus difficile pour elles de trouver un travail.
Parfois c’est aussi à cause de leurs maris qui ne veulent pas les voir trop impliquées dans la société norvégienne parce qu’elles pourraient goûter à la liberté des femmes dans notre société, il y a là une sorte de patriarcat.
Le sentiment anti-migrant a été l’un des moteurs de la campagne au Royaume-Uni pour quitter l’Union européenne. Les Britanniques se sont engagés sur cette voie non sans mal et regardent le modèle norvégien. Pensez-vous que ce modèle soit nécessairement le bon pour les Britannques ?
Beaucoup de discussions durant la campagne ont tourné autour des quatres libertés et j’ai déjà dit que je ne pensais pas que les Britanniques aimeraient notre modèle.
Je pense que ce modèle est très bon pour nous, cela nous donne une connexion économique qui nous permet de vendre nos produits et nos services. Mais concernant la question migratoire, en Norvège, pendant des années nous avons été assez accueillants parce que nous avions besoin de main-d’oeuvre.
Craignez-vous que d’autres pays puissent quitter l’UE ?
En fait, j’ai cru que le vote pour le Brexit allait engendrer des conséquences plus graves. Maintenant, tout le monde est assez anxieux quant à ce qui pourrait se passer après, et face à l’insécurité qui règne au Royaume-Uni, cela a peut-être calmé ceux qui pensaient que cela serait facile de quitter l’UE.
On entend souvent dire que les femmes politiques, à votre niveau, doivent travailler deux fois plus dur que les hommes et se battre pour leur poste. Avez-vous vécu cela ?
Je ne suis pas la première femme Première ministre de mon pays. Je suis la deuxième. Et je me dis souvent que je suis contente d‘être la deuxième parce que quelqu’un a fait le travail avant moi. En Norvège, les gens sont habitués à ce que des femmes soient leaders en politique et dans d’autres domaines. Cela me donne aussi une grande liberté d‘être moi-même et pas une moitié d’homme comme ce fut le cas pour les premières femmes qui ont été Première ministre et qui ont dû réellement s’adapter à ce type de standard.
L’un des moyens que vous avez trouvé pour vous relaxer c’est de jouer à Pokemon Go. Qu’est ce qui vous a rendu accro et pourquoi vous aimez y jouer ?
Cela a commencé durant mes vacances quand c’est devenu complètement fou et que tout le monde y jouait. Chaque Pokestop est généralement un bâtiment ou une sculpture qu’on peut découvrir dans la ville d’une manière différente parce que vous y découvrez des petits détails… vous redécouvrez l’art sous un jour nouveau et vous expérimentez des choses de manière différente.
Je trouve ça très amusant que les gens ne comprennent pas qu’une femme politique puisse se relaxer de la même manière que tout un chacun.
Défense : La Suède réhabilite des pièces de musée datant de la guerre froide
Dans le but d’améliorer les capacités défensives de Gotland, plus grande île du pays en mer Baltique, la Suède s’est décidée à dépoussiérer un système de défense antinavire datant de la période de la guerre froide ainsi que des véhicules Scania qui figuraient jusque-là dans des musées.
(Capture d’écran Youtube/ Försvarsmakten)
Face à une situation géopolitique de plus en plus imprévisible en Europe, l’armée suédoise a décidé qu’il était grand temps d’améliorer les défenses de l’île de Gotland, en mer baltique. Qu’importe si cela doit passer par la remise en état de pièces de musée.
La semaine dernière, l’armée suédoise s’est ainsi retrouvée à tester le bon fonctionnement de lance-missiles Kustrobotbatteri 90 capables de tirer depuis la terre des RBS-15, des missiles antinavires à longue portée, dont le guidage après lancement ne nécessite plus l’intervention du servant de la plate-forme de tir. Pour ce faire, les militaires n’ont pas hésité à demander l’assistance du constructeur aéronautique suédois SAAB ni à ressortir des véhicules Scania dont une partie avait tout bonnement été remisée dans des musées depuis la fin de guerre froide, comme nous l’apprend un récent article de The Local.
« Nous avons conduit des analyses afin de déterminer si nous serions en capacité de remettre en état un engin capable de tirer ces missiles. Il restait encore un certain nombre de camions. Nous avons également récupéré des composants de bateau lance-missiles et de vaisseaux de guerre partageant le même système de lancement », a ainsi expliqué le contre-amiral Thomas Engevall au journal suédois Dagens Nyheter.
Le ministre suédois de la Défense, Peter Hultqvist, s’est déclaré vendredi très satisfait de constater que la Suède possède de nouveau des installations capables de « tirer des missiles antinavires depuis la terre sur une longue distance ».
À en croire Mike Winnerstig, un analyste de la politique de sécurité à l’Agence suédoise de recherche de défense (FOI, Totalförsvarets forskningsinstitut) interrogé par le Dagens Nyheter, il s’agit là d’un signe fort que la Suède est bien décidée à renforcer ses capacités de défense : « La décision est nationale, mais c’est aussi une contribution suédoise aux capacités internationales de défense en mer Baltique à la suite de l’annexion de la Crimée par les Russes et l’invasion de l’Ukraine ».
"Quand on vous accueille, vous devez respecter les habitudes norvégiennes"
La Norvège est à la croisée des chemins de l’actualité mondiale. Sa Première ministre doit naviguer entre les tensions croissantes avec la Russie, la décision du Royaume-Uni de quitter l’Europe en passant par la crise des réfugiés. Elle doit même faire face à la folie planétaire du jeu Pokemon Go.
Isabelle Kumar a rencontré Erna Solberg en marge du Forum mondial pour la démocratie du Conseil de l’Europe.
Isabelle Kumar, euronews : Votre frontière avec la Russie n’est pas très longue mais vous avez récemment accepté que des troupes américaines stationnent chez vous. Cela a suscité un certain degré de mécontentement à Moscou…
Erna Solberg, Première ministre norvégienne : Cela ne m’inquiète pas plus que cela. Nous avons de bonnes relations avec la Russie sur de nombreux sujets.
Cela fait partie d’un cadre nécessaire : nous souhaitons nous assurer que nos alliés qui viennent dans notre pays puissent apprendre à combattre en période d’hiver en collaboration avec nos différentes troupes.
Mais la Russie n’apprécie trop pas de voir des troupes se rassembler à sa frontière nordique ou à l’est de l’Europe. N’y aurait-il pas là un peu de provocation?
Nous ne ressentons pas le même niveau de tension dans le nord en comparaison avec ce que nous avons vu dans les pays Baltes par exemple. Mais nous restons fermes : depuis que la Russie a enfreint le droit international en Ukraine nous continuons à soutenir le peuple ukrainien. Mais en même temps, dans le nord de l’Europe nous essayons d’entretenir de bonnes relations avec la Russie.
Bio express : Erna Solberg
- Erna Solberg devient Première ministre de Norvège en octobre 2013
- Elle est le leader du parti conservateur norvégien depuis 2004
- Elle a été surnommée ‘iron Erna’ (Erna l’inflexible) dans les années 2000
- Elle aime les jeux informatiques et est une adepte de Pokemon Go
Vous avez construit une clôture entre la Norvège et la Russie : c’est l’une des nombreuses barrières qui ont vu le jour ces dernies mois pour enrayer l’immigration. Et apparemment c’est un succès puisque l’immigration a chuté de 95%…
Nous avons de bons échanges avec la Russie. Je pense qu’ils savaient que c‘était une question de sécurité. Ils ont déjà trois barrières avant que quiconque puisse rejoindre la Norvège.Je crois que la réduction des flux a été aussi bénéfique pour eux.
N’est-ce pas délicat d‘ériger des barrières pour empêcher les gens de venir alors qu’ils sont dans une situation désespérée?
Nous sommes l’un de ces pays qui a relocalisé le plus de réfugiés. 3100 personnes dépendant des quotas de l’UNHCR sont en partance pour la Norvège.
Nous faisons cela depuis longtemps et de manière stable. Et même si nous enregistrerons moins de personnes cette année, l’an dernier nous avons pris part à de nombreuses crises humanitaires.
Lorsqu’on a un haut niveau d‘éducation on est généralement plus enclin à la tolérance envers la diversité. Que faire pour rendre les Norvégiens plus accueillants face aux réfugiés par ce qu’on leur demande souvent de s’intégrer mais on doit aussi les accueillir…
Cela fait partie de notre système d‘éducation de savoir pourquoi les gens fuient certains pays, de savoir quelle convention les protège, quelle est notre responsabilité. Cela fait partie de notre cursus scolaire en Norvège. Maintenant il faut être clair : quand on vous accueille, vous devez respecter les habitudes norvégiennes. Vous ne pouvez pas vous dire que vous vivez encore dans votre pays d’origine en matière de droits des femmes ou être consternés quand vous voyez deux hommes s’embrasser dans la rue. Il y a des homosexuels dans notre pays, c’est normal, cela fait partie de notre société.”
Ironiquement, c’est votre ministre de l’intégration qui a suscité un brin d’indignation parce qu’elle a dit que les nouveaux migrants devaient se faire à l’idée qu’autour d’eux les gens mangent du porc ou boivent de l’alcool. J’ai l’impression que même au niveau ministériel il semble qu’on ait une approche simpliste alors que le sujet est assez complexe. Qu’en pensez-vous ?
Je ne crois par que cela soit un sujet complexe : si vous arrivez dans un pays et que vous devez travailler pour subvenir à vos besoins vous ne pouvez pas dire non à un travail dans un restaurant parce qu’on y sert du porc ou de l’alcool. Vous ne pouvez pas vous attendre à ce que la société norvégienne subvienne à vos besoins si vous refusez de travailler pour des motifs religieux.
Cela reste marginal ?
Il y a encore trop peu de femmes migrantes qui travaillent en Norvège. Souvent parce qu’elles ont beaucoup d’enfants, donc c’est déjà beaucoup de travail en soi. Mais parfois elles ne trouvent pas de travail parce qu’elles émettent des demandes qui font que cela devient encore plus difficile pour elles de trouver un travail.
Parfois c’est aussi à cause de leurs maris qui ne veulent pas les voir trop impliquées dans la société norvégienne parce qu’elles pourraient goûter à la liberté des femmes dans notre société, il y a là une sorte de patriarcat.
Le sentiment anti-migrant a été l’un des moteurs de la campagne au Royaume-Uni pour quitter l’Union européenne. Les Britanniques se sont engagés sur cette voie non sans mal et regardent le modèle norvégien. Pensez-vous que ce modèle soit nécessairement le bon pour les Britannques ?
Beaucoup de discussions durant la campagne ont tourné autour des quatres libertés et j’ai déjà dit que je ne pensais pas que les Britanniques aimeraient notre modèle.
Je pense que ce modèle est très bon pour nous, cela nous donne une connexion économique qui nous permet de vendre nos produits et nos services. Mais concernant la question migratoire, en Norvège, pendant des années nous avons été assez accueillants parce que nous avions besoin de main-d’oeuvre.
Craignez-vous que d’autres pays puissent quitter l’UE ?
En fait, j’ai cru que le vote pour le Brexit allait engendrer des conséquences plus graves. Maintenant, tout le monde est assez anxieux quant à ce qui pourrait se passer après, et face à l’insécurité qui règne au Royaume-Uni, cela a peut-être calmé ceux qui pensaient que cela serait facile de quitter l’UE.
On entend souvent dire que les femmes politiques, à votre niveau, doivent travailler deux fois plus dur que les hommes et se battre pour leur poste. Avez-vous vécu cela ?
Je ne suis pas la première femme Première ministre de mon pays. Je suis la deuxième. Et je me dis souvent que je suis contente d‘être la deuxième parce que quelqu’un a fait le travail avant moi. En Norvège, les gens sont habitués à ce que des femmes soient leaders en politique et dans d’autres domaines. Cela me donne aussi une grande liberté d‘être moi-même et pas une moitié d’homme comme ce fut le cas pour les premières femmes qui ont été Première ministre et qui ont dû réellement s’adapter à ce type de standard.
L’un des moyens que vous avez trouvé pour vous relaxer c’est de jouer à Pokemon Go. Qu’est ce qui vous a rendu accro et pourquoi vous aimez y jouer ?
Cela a commencé durant mes vacances quand c’est devenu complètement fou et que tout le monde y jouait. Chaque Pokestop est généralement un bâtiment ou une sculpture qu’on peut découvrir dans la ville d’une manière différente parce que vous y découvrez des petits détails… vous redécouvrez l’art sous un jour nouveau et vous expérimentez des choses de manière différente.
Je trouve ça très amusant que les gens ne comprennent pas qu’une femme politique puisse se relaxer de la même manière que tout un chacun.
Александр- Messages : 5390
Date d'inscription : 23/03/2010
Localisation : Leuven, België
Re: Et en Russie !
Poutine : "les frontières russe ne se termine jamais !"
http://apostrophe.ua/news/world/ex-ussr/2016-11-24/putin-otlichilsya-strannyim-vyiskazyivaniem-o-granitsah-rossii-opublikovano-video/78101
les russes gonflent leurs troupes hors Russie. la Biélorussie point de départ d'une nouvelle opération "petis hommes verts et polis":
http://apostrophe.ua/article/world/ex-ussr/2016-11-24/vtoroy-ukrainskiy-front-zachem-putin-perebrasyivaet-voyska-v-belarus/8492
http://apostrophe.ua/news/world/ex-ussr/2016-11-24/putin-otlichilsya-strannyim-vyiskazyivaniem-o-granitsah-rossii-opublikovano-video/78101
les russes gonflent leurs troupes hors Russie. la Biélorussie point de départ d'une nouvelle opération "petis hommes verts et polis":
http://apostrophe.ua/article/world/ex-ussr/2016-11-24/vtoroy-ukrainskiy-front-zachem-putin-perebrasyivaet-voyska-v-belarus/8492
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