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Matt Lun 8 Aoû - 0:29
Russia massing tanks near Crimean Dzhankoy at border with mainland Ukraine – witnesses
Du coup:
Poroshenko`s administration: Ukraine on alert awaiting start of Russian army offensive
Sunday, 7 August, 2016 - 20:30 (EEST)
Ukrainian Presidential spokesman for Anti-Terrorist Operation issues Andriy Lysenko says Ukraine is on alert, waiting for an offensive by the Russian army to begin at any time.
”We`re expecting it at any time,” Lysenko said, answering a question about the possible aggravation of the conflict. Officials have noted the repositioning of equipment and the rotation of the military along the entire contact line from the enemy`s side, along with border crossings at uncontrolled sections.
”In the north of Crimea, Russian troops are also carrying out their maneuvers, and for a while the movement at checkpoints was suspended on the initiative of the Russian side. This means the occupiers are conducting their maneuvers, and we need to be aware that at any moment, at any hour, they can start a large or small-scale offensive,” Lysenko said.
He stressed that ATO forces are monitoring the situation in the areas where enemy forces and facilities are stationed. Ukraine is also preparing its reserves to repel a possible attack. Lysenko made note that these were Russian forces stationed on the other side. ”We can talk about the rotation of Russian servicemen, who manage units and participate in the planning of military operations,” he said.
As was reported on Sunday, the Russian occupying authorities suspended operations at checkpoints along the administrative border between Russia-annexed Crimea and mainland Ukraine. Later, only one checkpoint, Chonhar, resumed operations.
Confirmation:
Ukraine-Crimea checkpoints resume operations
Sunday, 7 August, 2016 - 23:31 (EEST)
Movement at the checkpoints between mainland Ukraine and Russia-annexed Crimea has resumed, according to the Ukrainian State Border Service.
”At about 14:30 local time, the Russian occupying authorities resumed operations at the checkpoints in occupied territory in Crimea, which are over against the Kalanchak and Chaplynka checkpoints [in Ukraine]. Yet, they handle only those persons and vehicles that are heading for Crimea,” the border guards said.
Those individuals and cars that want to leave the occupied peninsula are still blocked, they said.
Thus, the Ukrainian State Border Service advises citizens that plan trips in that direction against traveling unless it is absolutely necessary.
However, the Chonhar checkpoint whose operations resumed at about 11:00 local time on Sunday, August 7, handles traffic in both directions, it added.
As UNIAN reported earlier, at about 07:00 local time on Sunday, the Russian occupying authorities suspended, for unknown reasons, the handling of citizens and vehicles crossing the administrative border with Crimea.
Later, only one checkpoint, Chonhar, resumed operations.
Du coup:
Poroshenko`s administration: Ukraine on alert awaiting start of Russian army offensive
Sunday, 7 August, 2016 - 20:30 (EEST)
Ukrainian Presidential spokesman for Anti-Terrorist Operation issues Andriy Lysenko says Ukraine is on alert, waiting for an offensive by the Russian army to begin at any time.
”We`re expecting it at any time,” Lysenko said, answering a question about the possible aggravation of the conflict. Officials have noted the repositioning of equipment and the rotation of the military along the entire contact line from the enemy`s side, along with border crossings at uncontrolled sections.
”In the north of Crimea, Russian troops are also carrying out their maneuvers, and for a while the movement at checkpoints was suspended on the initiative of the Russian side. This means the occupiers are conducting their maneuvers, and we need to be aware that at any moment, at any hour, they can start a large or small-scale offensive,” Lysenko said.
He stressed that ATO forces are monitoring the situation in the areas where enemy forces and facilities are stationed. Ukraine is also preparing its reserves to repel a possible attack. Lysenko made note that these were Russian forces stationed on the other side. ”We can talk about the rotation of Russian servicemen, who manage units and participate in the planning of military operations,” he said.
As was reported on Sunday, the Russian occupying authorities suspended operations at checkpoints along the administrative border between Russia-annexed Crimea and mainland Ukraine. Later, only one checkpoint, Chonhar, resumed operations.
Confirmation:
Ukraine-Crimea checkpoints resume operations
Sunday, 7 August, 2016 - 23:31 (EEST)
Movement at the checkpoints between mainland Ukraine and Russia-annexed Crimea has resumed, according to the Ukrainian State Border Service.
”At about 14:30 local time, the Russian occupying authorities resumed operations at the checkpoints in occupied territory in Crimea, which are over against the Kalanchak and Chaplynka checkpoints [in Ukraine]. Yet, they handle only those persons and vehicles that are heading for Crimea,” the border guards said.
Those individuals and cars that want to leave the occupied peninsula are still blocked, they said.
Thus, the Ukrainian State Border Service advises citizens that plan trips in that direction against traveling unless it is absolutely necessary.
However, the Chonhar checkpoint whose operations resumed at about 11:00 local time on Sunday, August 7, handles traffic in both directions, it added.
As UNIAN reported earlier, at about 07:00 local time on Sunday, the Russian occupying authorities suspended, for unknown reasons, the handling of citizens and vehicles crossing the administrative border with Crimea.
Later, only one checkpoint, Chonhar, resumed operations.
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benoit77 Lun 8 Aoû - 8:58
Cf Mariani
Contrairement à son baratin , Les letton n’empêchent pas les russes de pratiquer leur rites à la maison
http://news.liga.net/news/politics/12064365-v_krymu_okkupanty_khotyat_zapretit_domashnie_religioznye_obryady.htm
Contrairement à son baratin , Les letton n’empêchent pas les russes de pratiquer leur rites à la maison
http://news.liga.net/news/politics/12064365-v_krymu_okkupanty_khotyat_zapretit_domashnie_religioznye_obryady.htm
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Александр Lun 8 Aoû - 9:08
Baratin de l'idiot utile. 
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'Like Being A Slave': Workers On Russia's Bridge To Crimea Report Abuse, Deceit
(«Etre comme un esclave»: Les travailleurs sur le pont de la Russie vers la Crimée signalent abus, (et) tromperie)
The Kerch Strait Bridge is Russia's top-priority infrastructure project. At a cost of at least $4.5 billion, the 19-kilometer car-and-rail bridge will tie Russia to Crimea, the Black Sea peninsula Moscow annexed from Ukraine in 2014. (file photo)
At the end of July, construction worker Vyacheslav Abdullin quit his job and headed home on foot – a 600-kilometer trek from the Kerch Strait to his hometown in the Ural Mountains region of Russia.
After a month laboring on a project that President Vladimir Putin has made clear is extremely important to the Kremlin -- a bridge linking Russia to the peninsula it seized from Ukraine in 2014 -- Abdullin had nothing to show for his pains except harrowing stories of deception and abuse.
Working on the Kerch Strait Bridge "is really like being a slave," Abdullin told RFE/RL.
"You can't stand, and you can't sit. Even if you have to wait half an hour for additional materials, if you are standing around, you will be fired. If you sit down, you are fired. You have to be doing something, even if you are just moving boards from one pile to another or tossing stones back and forth," he said by phone from Zlatoust, a city near Chelyabinsk in the Urals. "You have to look busy all the time. If not, you are fired."
The laborers were not allowed to take off their shirts in the hot summer sun, and sometimes they worked whole days without being given water to drink, Abdullin said.
He was not given any of the 47,000 rubles ($718) per month he was promised.
The Kerch Strait Bridge is Russia's top-priority infrastructure project. At a cost of at least $4.5 billion, the 19-kilometer car-and-rail bridge will tie Russia to Crimea, the Black Sea peninsula Moscow annexed from Ukraine after sending in troops and staging a referendum dismissed as illegitimate by 100 countries in a UN vote.
INFOGRAPHIC: The Bridge To Crimea (CLICK HERE TO VIEW)
Putin has claimed Crimea is "sacred" Russian land and displayed pride in taking control of the peninsula, a move that poisoned relations with Kyiv and West but which he claims righted a historical injustice. He needs the bridge to improve access to Crimea, which is linked to mainland Ukraine but not to Russia, and to show that he is making it an integral part of the country.
During a visit to the construction site in March, Putin emphasized that the span must be completed by the end of 2018 -- the year he could seek a fourth presidential term -- and threatened "to hang" any manager who "fails to do the job."
Nonetheless, Kremlin auditors estimated in June 2015 that two-thirds of the money allocated for the bridge over the preceding year was unaccounted for.
'No Work In The Cities'
Abdullin's story began last fall when his house in Zlatoust burned to the ground.
He, his wife, and their two children moved into a rented room, but were told they would have to move out by the end of August because of another renter – leaving him desperate for a way to make money to pay for a new place to live.
That's when he saw a television advertisement from a company called Liberti, in the Russian city of Izhevsk, looking for workers to go to Kerch.
"I phoned them and asked about food and lodging and all that," Abdullin said. "They told me that they pay 5,000 rubles ($77) a month for expenses, plus a cash salary of 47,000 rubles. They promised two meals a day, transportation there and back, work clothes, and a place to sleep. All of that was included."
Vyacheslav Abdulli with his two children (file photo)
But when he got to the construction site and spoke with other workers, he heard a different story.
"Everything was deducted [from the salary]," he said.
The stories the Kerch Bridge workers tell are reminiscent of similar accounts from the construction sites for the 2014 Winter Olympics in Sochi, another prestige project for Putin.
According to Human Rights Watch, many of the estimated 70,000 migrant workers on those sites endured long hours, unpaid wages, and overcrowded accommodation.
Russia's economy has deteriorated since then, hit by an oil-price collapse that began four months after the Sochi Games and the effects of sanctions imposed by the Western nations over its annexation of Crimea and support for separatists in eastern Ukraine, as well as the measures Moscow has taken in response.
Abdullin said there are workers from across Russia at the Kerch project, drawn there from depressed towns by promises of high wages.
"They come from far off because there is no work in the cities," he said. "There were some who came and immediately understood what was going on and then took off again the next day -- the ones who had money. But what were the guys who had no money supposed to do? Where do they go?"
'Worse Than Animals'
Abdullin returned from Kerch with another man from Zlatoust, Aleksei Loginov, who told a similar story.
"They treat people very badly there. They don't even consider them to be people. They treat them worse than animals," he said. "All day, you can't even sit down or take a smoke. There were no smoking breaks…. All 11 hours, you had to work, work, work. Without a break. If you sit down, you are fired. That's how they treated people."
Loginov recalled seeing one shift supervisor fire two men on the spot for allegedly "sawing crookedly."
"They'll fire you for nothing," he said. "That's how the whole Kerch Bridge project is built. They fire people and send them away without any pay. They are actually trying to break people because they know they are far from home and they don't have the money to travel home."
When one month of work was up and no money came their way, Abdullin and Loginov had enough. They caught the ferry to the village of Taman, on the Russian side of the strait, and started walking. They hitchhiked occasionally, slept in fields, and ate whatever food they could find.
"We ate corn and whatever else we could find," Loginov said. "Cherries, apples."
When he reached the village of Millerovo in Rostov Oblast, Loginov received a wire of train fare from his wife. Abdullin walked the rest of the way alone.
Abdullin, who remains in desperate need of money, still hopes to get his wages from the people at Liberti, even though his work contract and other documents were taken from him at the Kerch site. He plans to take his case to local prosecutors.
Loginov, on the other hand, just wants to forget the whole experience.
RFE/RL was not able to reach Liberti for comment. The only telephone number listed has been disconnected.
RFE/RL correspondent Robert Coalson contributed to this report.
Bah, les faire travailler pour rien, normal, y a plus de $$$$
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'Like Being A Slave': Workers On Russia's Bridge To Crimea Report Abuse, Deceit
(«Etre comme un esclave»: Les travailleurs sur le pont de la Russie vers la Crimée signalent abus, (et) tromperie)
The Kerch Strait Bridge is Russia's top-priority infrastructure project. At a cost of at least $4.5 billion, the 19-kilometer car-and-rail bridge will tie Russia to Crimea, the Black Sea peninsula Moscow annexed from Ukraine in 2014. (file photo)
At the end of July, construction worker Vyacheslav Abdullin quit his job and headed home on foot – a 600-kilometer trek from the Kerch Strait to his hometown in the Ural Mountains region of Russia.
After a month laboring on a project that President Vladimir Putin has made clear is extremely important to the Kremlin -- a bridge linking Russia to the peninsula it seized from Ukraine in 2014 -- Abdullin had nothing to show for his pains except harrowing stories of deception and abuse.
Working on the Kerch Strait Bridge "is really like being a slave," Abdullin told RFE/RL.
"You can't stand, and you can't sit. Even if you have to wait half an hour for additional materials, if you are standing around, you will be fired. If you sit down, you are fired. You have to be doing something, even if you are just moving boards from one pile to another or tossing stones back and forth," he said by phone from Zlatoust, a city near Chelyabinsk in the Urals. "You have to look busy all the time. If not, you are fired."
The laborers were not allowed to take off their shirts in the hot summer sun, and sometimes they worked whole days without being given water to drink, Abdullin said.
He was not given any of the 47,000 rubles ($718) per month he was promised.
The Kerch Strait Bridge is Russia's top-priority infrastructure project. At a cost of at least $4.5 billion, the 19-kilometer car-and-rail bridge will tie Russia to Crimea, the Black Sea peninsula Moscow annexed from Ukraine after sending in troops and staging a referendum dismissed as illegitimate by 100 countries in a UN vote.
INFOGRAPHIC: The Bridge To Crimea (CLICK HERE TO VIEW)
Putin has claimed Crimea is "sacred" Russian land and displayed pride in taking control of the peninsula, a move that poisoned relations with Kyiv and West but which he claims righted a historical injustice. He needs the bridge to improve access to Crimea, which is linked to mainland Ukraine but not to Russia, and to show that he is making it an integral part of the country.
During a visit to the construction site in March, Putin emphasized that the span must be completed by the end of 2018 -- the year he could seek a fourth presidential term -- and threatened "to hang" any manager who "fails to do the job."
Nonetheless, Kremlin auditors estimated in June 2015 that two-thirds of the money allocated for the bridge over the preceding year was unaccounted for.
'No Work In The Cities'
Abdullin's story began last fall when his house in Zlatoust burned to the ground.
He, his wife, and their two children moved into a rented room, but were told they would have to move out by the end of August because of another renter – leaving him desperate for a way to make money to pay for a new place to live.
That's when he saw a television advertisement from a company called Liberti, in the Russian city of Izhevsk, looking for workers to go to Kerch.
"I phoned them and asked about food and lodging and all that," Abdullin said. "They told me that they pay 5,000 rubles ($77) a month for expenses, plus a cash salary of 47,000 rubles. They promised two meals a day, transportation there and back, work clothes, and a place to sleep. All of that was included."
Vyacheslav Abdulli with his two children (file photo)
But when he got to the construction site and spoke with other workers, he heard a different story.
"Everything was deducted [from the salary]," he said.
The stories the Kerch Bridge workers tell are reminiscent of similar accounts from the construction sites for the 2014 Winter Olympics in Sochi, another prestige project for Putin.
According to Human Rights Watch, many of the estimated 70,000 migrant workers on those sites endured long hours, unpaid wages, and overcrowded accommodation.
Russia's economy has deteriorated since then, hit by an oil-price collapse that began four months after the Sochi Games and the effects of sanctions imposed by the Western nations over its annexation of Crimea and support for separatists in eastern Ukraine, as well as the measures Moscow has taken in response.
Abdullin said there are workers from across Russia at the Kerch project, drawn there from depressed towns by promises of high wages.
"They come from far off because there is no work in the cities," he said. "There were some who came and immediately understood what was going on and then took off again the next day -- the ones who had money. But what were the guys who had no money supposed to do? Where do they go?"
'Worse Than Animals'
Abdullin returned from Kerch with another man from Zlatoust, Aleksei Loginov, who told a similar story.
"They treat people very badly there. They don't even consider them to be people. They treat them worse than animals," he said. "All day, you can't even sit down or take a smoke. There were no smoking breaks…. All 11 hours, you had to work, work, work. Without a break. If you sit down, you are fired. That's how they treated people."
Loginov recalled seeing one shift supervisor fire two men on the spot for allegedly "sawing crookedly."
"They'll fire you for nothing," he said. "That's how the whole Kerch Bridge project is built. They fire people and send them away without any pay. They are actually trying to break people because they know they are far from home and they don't have the money to travel home."
When one month of work was up and no money came their way, Abdullin and Loginov had enough. They caught the ferry to the village of Taman, on the Russian side of the strait, and started walking. They hitchhiked occasionally, slept in fields, and ate whatever food they could find.
"We ate corn and whatever else we could find," Loginov said. "Cherries, apples."
When he reached the village of Millerovo in Rostov Oblast, Loginov received a wire of train fare from his wife. Abdullin walked the rest of the way alone.
Abdullin, who remains in desperate need of money, still hopes to get his wages from the people at Liberti, even though his work contract and other documents were taken from him at the Kerch site. He plans to take his case to local prosecutors.
Loginov, on the other hand, just wants to forget the whole experience.
RFE/RL was not able to reach Liberti for comment. The only telephone number listed has been disconnected.
RFE/RL correspondent Robert Coalson contributed to this report.
Bah, les faire travailler pour rien, normal, y a plus de $$$$
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benoit77 Lun 8 Aoû - 9:21
Il a travaillé , il est libre !
Arbeit macht frei était sur le fronton des camps nazi
Arbeit macht frei était sur le fronton des camps nazi
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Александр Lun 8 Aoû - 9:24
Tu te trompes, la junte elle est à Kiev, tout le monde le sait. 
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Александр Lun 8 Aoû - 10:02
Passage à nouveau bloqué.
J'espère que ça ne présage rien de mauvais comme on peut le penser.
J'espère que ça ne présage rien de mauvais comme on peut le penser.
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benoit77 Lun 8 Aoû - 10:28
Bah oui comme ils n'ont pas leur Mistral, ils sont dans l'obligation de réquisitionner les "ferries" civils pour apporter leurs canons et chars.
Et le pont est et sera une arlésienne.
Et le pont est et sera une arlésienne.
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Александр Lun 8 Aoû - 10:46
Tantôt, je voyais sur twitter qu'il était demandé aux civils de ne pas utiliser le ferry.
C'est tout dire: usage exclusif pour l'armée.
C'est tout dire: usage exclusif pour l'armée.
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benoit77 Lun 8 Aoû - 11:01
exercice bidon pour vraie opération militaire :
http://news.liga.net/news/politics/12064481-voennye_ucheniya_rossiya_mozhet_ispolzovat_dlya_napadeniya_ekspert.htm
http://news.liga.net/news/politics/12064481-voennye_ucheniya_rossiya_mozhet_ispolzovat_dlya_napadeniya_ekspert.htm
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Александр Lun 8 Aoû - 14:49
Ukrainian official explains why occupied Crimea suspended checkpoints on Sunday
Deputy Minister for temporarily occupied territories in Ukraine George Tuka explained that the occupying authorities in Crimea had suspended traffic at checkpoints between the occupied peninsula and mainland Ukraine on Sunday due to the Russian military drills.
The Chonhar checkpoint is, however, open in both directions.
Witnesses claim roadblocks by the Russian traffic police and armed servicemen have been set up in some areas of the peninsula.
Deputy Minister for temporarily occupied territories in Ukraine George Tuka explained that the occupying authorities in Crimea had suspended traffic at checkpoints between the occupied peninsula and mainland Ukraine on Sunday due to the Russian military drills.
According to reports, the movement of citizens across the administrative border between Crimea and Kherson region in mainland Ukraine was suspended on August 7. Later, the Kalanchak and Chaplynka checkpoints resumed operations in the direction of Crimea. Those attempting to leave the occupied peninsula have been stopped by Russian law enforcement agencies.”According to information available — I`ve talked to Viktor Nazarenko, chief of [Ukraine`s] border service, today — and he told me that the occupying authorities in Crimea have started so-called military drills along the contact line. According to reports from the other side, the checkpoints ceased operations to avoid endangering civilians. The Ukrainian side has not been involved in any acts of provocation, this is ridiculous,” he told Channel 112 Ukraine.
The Chonhar checkpoint is, however, open in both directions.
Witnesses claim roadblocks by the Russian traffic police and armed servicemen have been set up in some areas of the peninsula.
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Matt Mar 9 Aoû - 8:41
Juste d'après ce que je vois, la situation militaire devient de plus en plus critique entre la Crimée et l'Ukraine.
Les deux côtés massent des troupes de part et d'autre.
Les deux côtés massent des troupes de part et d'autre.
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Matt Mar 9 Aoû - 18:52
C'est comme je disais ce matin:
Ukraine deploys military hardware to checkpoints with Crimea - General Staff
Ukrainian soldiers at the checkpoint Chaplynka (Source: facebook.com/evromaydan)
Russian troops step up its military activity in annexed peninsula, near the border with Ukraine
Ukraine deploys more military equipment and forces to strengthen its army units in the Kherson region - near the administrative border between mainland Ukraine and Russia-annexed Crimea.
Read also Russian occupation authorities block land access to Crimea
This was confirmed by Speaker of Ukraine's General Staff of the Armed Forces Vladyslav Seleznev, according to Krym.Realii.
Residents of the Henychesk area (Ukraine's Kherson region, near Russia-annexed Crimea) told that they spotted Ukrainian heavy military hardware, including anti-tank rocket launchers, moving in their direction.
Vladyslav Seleznyov said, Ukrainian authorities respond quickly and effectively to a situation that may be caused by Russia's possible military activities in this area.
Meanwhile, Ukraine's State Border Service spotted nine Russian helicopters and two drones above the border with the occupied Crimea.
"The Kherson border guards spotted nine Russian Mi-8 helicopters and two drones moving above the temporarily occupied territory of Crimea, along the administrative border with mainland Ukraine. The relevant units of armed forces were notified", the statement read.
On August 7, Russian occupation authorities suspended movement of cars and people at the administrative border of the temporarily occupied Crimean peninsula.
On the same day, Deputy Chairman of the Crimean Mejlis Nariman Dzhelalov wrote on Facebook: "Witnesses report that large groups of Russian military hardware have been massed near Armyansk and Dzhankoy. Dzhankoy has been cordoned off by troops with tanks and other equipment."
Speaker of Ukraine's General Staff Vladyslav Seleznev said that Russian military activity near the border with Crimea coincided with preparations for 'Northern Caucasus 2016' drills that will take place in Russia's Southern Federal District. The exercises will involve Russian-backed troops stationed in Crimea.
A threat level rises in Ukraine as Russia stepped up its military activity in the annexed Crimea.
Crimea was seized from Ukraine by Russia in February 2014. Ukraine's Parliament (Verkhovna Rada) officially declared February 20, 2014, a beginning of Russia's illegal occupation of Crimea and Sevastopol. Numerous world leaders strongly condemned the illegal annexation and launched a range of economic sanctions against Russia.
Read also Crimea 'was returned' to Ukraine at 2016 Summer Olympics opening ceremony
Despite the overall resentment, Moscow rejects the notion "occupation", naming its deeds instead "a renewal of historical justice".
On July 28, Russian President Vladimir Putin abolished the Crimean federal district by making Crimea and Sevastopol part of Russia's Southern federal district. Under the president's decree, the District now consists of Adygea, Kalmykia, Crimea, Krasnodar Territory, Astrakhan region, Volgograd region, Rostov region and Sevastopol. The Ukrainian Foreign Ministry expressed its protest over such a decision and stated that Crimea remains a Ukrainian territory.
Russia's military hardware, helicopters spotted along checkpoints with Crimea
Ukrainian soldiers at the Chongar checkpoint (UNIAN Photo)
Situation remains tense - Ukraine's Border Guards
Russian forces's military activity continues near the administrative border between mainland Ukraine and Russia-annexed Crimea, assistant chairman of the State Border Service Oleh Slobodyan said on August 9.
"Ukrainian border guards spotted at least six (Russian) Mi-8 helicopters, a drone, military hardware near the positions of Russia's Armed Forces, and at night Russian-backed forces tried to spotlight the Ukrainian positions", wrote Slobodyan on Facebook.
Read also Russian occupation authorities block land access to Crimea
People and vehicles are allowed to cross the border in both directions only near the Chongar checkpoint. About 100 cars are piled up near the Chaplynka checkpoint, whereas nearly 70 vehicles reportedly queue up near the Chaplynka checkpoint.
On August 8, Ukraine's State Border Service reported that the situation on the administrative border between mainland Ukraine and Russia-annexed Crimea remains tense yet under control.
Read also Crimea 'was returned' to Ukraine at 2016 Summer Olympics opening ceremony
The situation got tense as the occupying authorities in Crimea blocked the checkpoints at the administrative border with mainland Ukraine on Sunday morning, August 7. According to UNIAN, witnesses reported that large amounts of Russian military hardware were massed near the towns of Dzhankoy and Armyansk in Crimea's north, close to the administrative border with mainland Ukraine.
Crimea was seized from Ukraine by Russia in February 2014. Ukraine's Parliament (Verkhovna Rada) officially declared February 20, 2014, a beginning of Russia's illegal occupation of Crimea and Sevastopol. Numerous world leaders strongly condemned the illegal annexation and launched a range of economic sanctions against Russia.
Read also Crimea 'was returned' to Ukraine at 2016 Summer Olympics opening ceremony
Despite the overall resentment, Moscow rejects the notion "occupation", naming its deeds instead "a renewal of historical justice".
On July 28, Russian President Vladimir Putin abolished the Crimean federal district by making Crimea and Sevastopol part of Russia's Southern federal district. Under the president's decree, the District now consists of Adygea, Kalmykia, Crimea, Krasnodar Territory, Astrakhan region, Volgograd region, Rostov region and Sevastopol. The Ukrainian Foreign Ministry expressed its protest over such a decision and stated that Crimea remains a Ukrainian territory.
Witnesses share footage of Russia army trucks moving across occupied Crimea
Witnesses have videotaped a convoy of Russian military trucks moving across Russia-occupied Crimea and uploaded two pieces of the footage from a car recorder on YouTube.
The Russian occupiers are relocating army trucks in Crimea / Screenshot
According to the captions, the convoy moves along a detour road between Simferopol and Yalta.
The K-300P Bastion-P (NATO reporting name SS-C-5 Stooge) is a Russian mobile coastal defense missile system.The main role of the Bastion-P is to engage surface ships, including carrier battle groups, convoys, and landing craft. A typical battery is composed of one or two command and control vehicles based on the Kamaz 43101 6X6 truck, one support vehicle, four launcher vehicles based on the MZKT-7930 8X8 chassis, each operated by a three-man crew and holding two missiles, and four loader vehicles. Launcher vehicles can be located up to 25 km (16 mi) away from the C2 vehicles.
As UNIAN reported, Russian occupiers on August 7 blocked three checkpoints on the administrative border between occupied Crimea and mainland Ukraine.
On the same day, Nariman Dzhelalov, deputy chairman of the Crimean Tatar Mejlis, which represents the ethnic Tatar group, wrote on Facebook that witnesses had reported seeing large groups of Russian military hardware been stockpiled near the towns of Armyansk and Dzhankoy in Crimea`s north, close to the administrative border.
Ukrainian intelligence services connected the movement of the equipment with preparations for military drills.
Ukraine deploys military hardware to checkpoints with Crimea - General Staff
Ukrainian soldiers at the checkpoint Chaplynka (Source: facebook.com/evromaydan)
Russian troops step up its military activity in annexed peninsula, near the border with Ukraine
Ukraine deploys more military equipment and forces to strengthen its army units in the Kherson region - near the administrative border between mainland Ukraine and Russia-annexed Crimea.
Read also Russian occupation authorities block land access to Crimea
This was confirmed by Speaker of Ukraine's General Staff of the Armed Forces Vladyslav Seleznev, according to Krym.Realii.
Residents of the Henychesk area (Ukraine's Kherson region, near Russia-annexed Crimea) told that they spotted Ukrainian heavy military hardware, including anti-tank rocket launchers, moving in their direction.
Vladyslav Seleznyov said, Ukrainian authorities respond quickly and effectively to a situation that may be caused by Russia's possible military activities in this area.
Meanwhile, Ukraine's State Border Service spotted nine Russian helicopters and two drones above the border with the occupied Crimea.
"The Kherson border guards spotted nine Russian Mi-8 helicopters and two drones moving above the temporarily occupied territory of Crimea, along the administrative border with mainland Ukraine. The relevant units of armed forces were notified", the statement read.
On August 7, Russian occupation authorities suspended movement of cars and people at the administrative border of the temporarily occupied Crimean peninsula.
On the same day, Deputy Chairman of the Crimean Mejlis Nariman Dzhelalov wrote on Facebook: "Witnesses report that large groups of Russian military hardware have been massed near Armyansk and Dzhankoy. Dzhankoy has been cordoned off by troops with tanks and other equipment."
Speaker of Ukraine's General Staff Vladyslav Seleznev said that Russian military activity near the border with Crimea coincided with preparations for 'Northern Caucasus 2016' drills that will take place in Russia's Southern Federal District. The exercises will involve Russian-backed troops stationed in Crimea.
A threat level rises in Ukraine as Russia stepped up its military activity in the annexed Crimea.
Crimea was seized from Ukraine by Russia in February 2014. Ukraine's Parliament (Verkhovna Rada) officially declared February 20, 2014, a beginning of Russia's illegal occupation of Crimea and Sevastopol. Numerous world leaders strongly condemned the illegal annexation and launched a range of economic sanctions against Russia.
Read also Crimea 'was returned' to Ukraine at 2016 Summer Olympics opening ceremony
Despite the overall resentment, Moscow rejects the notion "occupation", naming its deeds instead "a renewal of historical justice".
On July 28, Russian President Vladimir Putin abolished the Crimean federal district by making Crimea and Sevastopol part of Russia's Southern federal district. Under the president's decree, the District now consists of Adygea, Kalmykia, Crimea, Krasnodar Territory, Astrakhan region, Volgograd region, Rostov region and Sevastopol. The Ukrainian Foreign Ministry expressed its protest over such a decision and stated that Crimea remains a Ukrainian territory.
Russia's military hardware, helicopters spotted along checkpoints with Crimea
Ukrainian soldiers at the Chongar checkpoint (UNIAN Photo)
Situation remains tense - Ukraine's Border Guards
Russian forces's military activity continues near the administrative border between mainland Ukraine and Russia-annexed Crimea, assistant chairman of the State Border Service Oleh Slobodyan said on August 9.
"Ukrainian border guards spotted at least six (Russian) Mi-8 helicopters, a drone, military hardware near the positions of Russia's Armed Forces, and at night Russian-backed forces tried to spotlight the Ukrainian positions", wrote Slobodyan on Facebook.
Read also Russian occupation authorities block land access to Crimea
People and vehicles are allowed to cross the border in both directions only near the Chongar checkpoint. About 100 cars are piled up near the Chaplynka checkpoint, whereas nearly 70 vehicles reportedly queue up near the Chaplynka checkpoint.
On August 8, Ukraine's State Border Service reported that the situation on the administrative border between mainland Ukraine and Russia-annexed Crimea remains tense yet under control.
Read also Crimea 'was returned' to Ukraine at 2016 Summer Olympics opening ceremony
The situation got tense as the occupying authorities in Crimea blocked the checkpoints at the administrative border with mainland Ukraine on Sunday morning, August 7. According to UNIAN, witnesses reported that large amounts of Russian military hardware were massed near the towns of Dzhankoy and Armyansk in Crimea's north, close to the administrative border with mainland Ukraine.
Read also Crimea 'was returned' to Ukraine at 2016 Summer Olympics opening ceremony
Despite the overall resentment, Moscow rejects the notion "occupation", naming its deeds instead "a renewal of historical justice".
On July 28, Russian President Vladimir Putin abolished the Crimean federal district by making Crimea and Sevastopol part of Russia's Southern federal district. Under the president's decree, the District now consists of Adygea, Kalmykia, Crimea, Krasnodar Territory, Astrakhan region, Volgograd region, Rostov region and Sevastopol. The Ukrainian Foreign Ministry expressed its protest over such a decision and stated that Crimea remains a Ukrainian territory.
Witnesses share footage of Russia army trucks moving across occupied Crimea
Witnesses have videotaped a convoy of Russian military trucks moving across Russia-occupied Crimea and uploaded two pieces of the footage from a car recorder on YouTube.
The Russian occupiers are relocating army trucks in Crimea / Screenshot
According to the captions, the convoy moves along a detour road between Simferopol and Yalta.
”Russia`s Bastions [mobile coastal defense missile systems] are being relocated to the Starokrymsky training range,” a witness comments in the second video clip.
The K-300P Bastion-P (NATO reporting name SS-C-5 Stooge) is a Russian mobile coastal defense missile system.The main role of the Bastion-P is to engage surface ships, including carrier battle groups, convoys, and landing craft. A typical battery is composed of one or two command and control vehicles based on the Kamaz 43101 6X6 truck, one support vehicle, four launcher vehicles based on the MZKT-7930 8X8 chassis, each operated by a three-man crew and holding two missiles, and four loader vehicles. Launcher vehicles can be located up to 25 km (16 mi) away from the C2 vehicles.
As UNIAN reported, Russian occupiers on August 7 blocked three checkpoints on the administrative border between occupied Crimea and mainland Ukraine.
On the same day, Nariman Dzhelalov, deputy chairman of the Crimean Tatar Mejlis, which represents the ethnic Tatar group, wrote on Facebook that witnesses had reported seeing large groups of Russian military hardware been stockpiled near the towns of Armyansk and Dzhankoy in Crimea`s north, close to the administrative border.
Ukrainian intelligence services connected the movement of the equipment with preparations for military drills.
Ukraine has increased its alert status following Russia`s activity on the occupied peninsula.”The relocation of the [Russian] troops on the peninsula has coincided [with preparations for the exercise]. Today, there are very active preparations underway for the Kavkaz (Caucasus) 2016 drills, which are scheduled by Russia in its southern okrug with full involvement of the units stationed in Crimea,” Vadym Skybytsky, a representative of the Ukrainian Defense Ministry`s main intelligence department, said.
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Александр Mer 10 Aoû - 9:25
Russia deploys nuclear weapons carriers in Crimea – Ukraine intelligence
Russia has deployed carriers of nuclear weapons in Crimea, said Vadym Skibitskyi, representative of the Main Intelligence Department of Ukraine`s Defense Ministry, during a briefing today that was broadcast by 112 Ukraine channel.
Russia has deployed carriers of nuclear weapons in Crimea, said Vadym Skibitskyi, representative of the Main Intelligence Department of Ukraine`s Defense Ministry, during a briefing today that was broadcast by 112 Ukraine channel.
”We do not rule out such a probability [the deployment of nuclear weapons in Crimea]. There are indeed carriers of nuclear weapons in the territory of the Crimean peninsula. These are grounds-based or air-delivered weapons,” Skibitskyi said.
”Currently, nuclear weapons are stored at depots in the territory of Russia, near Novorossiysk, as well as in other facilities located in European Russia,” Skibitskyi added.
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Un nouveau FRONT de combat au nord de la Crimée ?
pyxous Mer 10 Aoû - 15:02
Russia accuses Ukraine of armed Crimea incursion, says two killed
MOSCOW: Russia's Federal Security Service said Wednesday it had thwarted an armed Ukrainian incursion into Crimea designed to target critical infrastructure and that a Russian soldier and FSB employee had been killed in the clashes.
The FSB said the attempted incursions had taken place over the weekend.
MOSCOW: Russia's Federal Security Service said Wednesday it had thwarted an armed Ukrainian incursion into Crimea designed to target critical infrastructure and that a Russian soldier and FSB employee had been killed in the clashes.
The FSB said the attempted incursions had taken place over the weekend.
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Matt Mer 10 Aoû - 15:49
Ben tient, les méchants nazis de la junte de Kiev . . . et ça pour expliquer la fermeture des check points entre Crimée et Ukraine et le déploiement de forces en Crimée.
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benoit77 Mer 10 Aoû - 16:22
C'est désormais connu le système russe:
Le FSB organise des incidents qui servent de justifications aux opérations armées russe.
On retrouve des situations similaires pour la Transnistrie, la Tchétchénie, l’Ossétie, l’Abkhazie, la Crimée, le donbass ...
Le FSB organise des incidents qui servent de justifications aux opérations armées russe.
On retrouve des situations similaires pour la Transnistrie, la Tchétchénie, l’Ossétie, l’Abkhazie, la Crimée, le donbass ...
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Matt Mer 10 Aoû - 23:11
Tu m'étonnes tiens! C'est connus de l'OSCE et de l'ONU?
Poser la question est y répondre . . .
Poser la question est y répondre . . .
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benoit77 Jeu 11 Aoû - 13:41
Des SU et MIG pour protéger les plages de Crimée "surpeuplées" de touristes
http://news.liga.net/video/politics/12098665-v_okkupirovannom_krymu_nad_plyazhami_letayut_istrebiteli_video.htm
http://news.liga.net/video/politics/12098665-v_okkupirovannom_krymu_nad_plyazhami_letayut_istrebiteli_video.htm
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Matt Ven 12 Aoû - 0:32
Stupide et tu le sais aussi bien que nos médias . . .
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr: mon commentaire
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr: mon commentaire
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Caduce62 Ven 12 Aoû - 18:51
AFP, publié le vendredi 12 août 2016 à 18h35
Conflit russo-ukrainien: que cache le brusque regain de tensions autour de la Crimée, annexée par la Russie en 2014 ?
Depuis plusieurs jours, la péninsule ukrainienne de Crimée, annexée par Moscou en 2014, est au coeur d'un brusque regain de tensions entre l'Ukraine et la Russie.
Tandis que la Russie accuse l'Ukraine de vouloir déstabiliser la Crimée en y envoyant des groupes armés, ce que dément Kiev, la communauté internationale appelle les deux pays à éviter toute escalade, craignant que le conflit ukrainien ne reprenne.
De quoi s'accusent Moscou et Kiev?
Les services secrets russes (FSB) ont affirmé mercredi avoir arrêté des "saboteurs-terroristes" ukrainiens chargés de commettre des attentats, à l'issue d'affrontements armés ayant fait deux morts, selon Moscou, un agent du FSB et un militaire russe.
Le président Vladimir Poutine a aussitôt accusé les autorités ukrainiennes d'être "passées à la terreur" dans le but de déstabiliser la Crimée.
Kiev a démenti ces accusations et estimé qu'elles servaient de "prétexte à de nouvelles menaces militaires".
L'armée ukrainienne a été placée en état d'alerte maximal le long de la ligne de démarcation avec la Crimée et l'Est ukrainien, où les affrontements avec les séparatistes prorusses ont fait plus de 9.500 morts depuis avril 2014.
La télévision russe a diffusé des images d'explosifs saisis et d'un homme présenté comme un agent ukrainien arrêté.
Kiev affirme de son côté qu'il a été enlevé en Ukraine et que toute l'histoire a pour origine des soldats russes ivres qui ont fait usage de leurs armes.
Quel est l'intérêt de Moscou ?
A la suite des déclarations de Vladimir Poutine, certains ont craint que Moscou ne saisisse cette occasion pour déclencher une opération militaire et créer un couloir terrestre entre la Russie et la Crimée.
Mais pour le politologue Alexandre Baounov, du centre Carnegie de Moscou, une telle hypothèse "contredit la logique" actuelle de la Russie qui, fragilisée par une crise économique, souhaite normaliser ses relations avec les Occidentaux et voir levées les sanctions européennes et américaines.
Le Kremlin semble surtout chercher un nouveau levier pour peser davantage sur les négociations en vue du règlement de la crise ukrainienne, au point mort depuis la conclusion des accords de Minsk en février 2015, selon l'expert.
"La Russie est clairement en train d'utiliser ce qui s'est passé en Crimée pour souligner auprès des Occidentaux que les dirigeants ukrainiens refusent tout compromis", estime M. Baounov.
A quelques semaines des élections législatives russes de septembre, cet expert juge que Moscou pourrait aussi chercher à ranimer le patriotisme des habitants de cette péninsule, mis à mal par les pénuries ayant suivi son annexion.
Quel est l'intérêt de Kiev ?
Pour l'Ukraine, recourir à la force militaire pour récupérer la Crimée est illusoire, soulignent les experts.
"La dégradation de la situation n'est pas dans l'intérêt du gouvernement ukrainien", insiste Vadym Karasyov, directeur de l'Institut des stratégies mondiales à Kiev.
Pourtant, pour la première fois en deux ans dans la capitale ukrainienne, "on a recommencé à parler de l'éventualité d'une guerre", remarque Volodymir Fesenko, à la tête du centre d'études politiques Penta.
Pour M. Baounov, le brusque regain de tensions peut permettre à Kiev de remettre la Crimée au coeur des négociations, alors que les Occidentaux concentrent leurs efforts sur le conflit dans le Donbass, dans l'est de l'Ukraine.
"Moscou a réussi assez rapidement à séparer les questions du Donbass et de la Crimée", souligne le politologue. "Et le moment où ces deux questions peuvent être de nouveau liées pourrait s'envoler à jamais".
Conflit russo-ukrainien: que cache le brusque regain de tensions autour de la Crimée, annexée par la Russie en 2014 ?
Depuis plusieurs jours, la péninsule ukrainienne de Crimée, annexée par Moscou en 2014, est au coeur d'un brusque regain de tensions entre l'Ukraine et la Russie.
Tandis que la Russie accuse l'Ukraine de vouloir déstabiliser la Crimée en y envoyant des groupes armés, ce que dément Kiev, la communauté internationale appelle les deux pays à éviter toute escalade, craignant que le conflit ukrainien ne reprenne.
De quoi s'accusent Moscou et Kiev?
Les services secrets russes (FSB) ont affirmé mercredi avoir arrêté des "saboteurs-terroristes" ukrainiens chargés de commettre des attentats, à l'issue d'affrontements armés ayant fait deux morts, selon Moscou, un agent du FSB et un militaire russe.
Le président Vladimir Poutine a aussitôt accusé les autorités ukrainiennes d'être "passées à la terreur" dans le but de déstabiliser la Crimée.
Kiev a démenti ces accusations et estimé qu'elles servaient de "prétexte à de nouvelles menaces militaires".
L'armée ukrainienne a été placée en état d'alerte maximal le long de la ligne de démarcation avec la Crimée et l'Est ukrainien, où les affrontements avec les séparatistes prorusses ont fait plus de 9.500 morts depuis avril 2014.
La télévision russe a diffusé des images d'explosifs saisis et d'un homme présenté comme un agent ukrainien arrêté.
Kiev affirme de son côté qu'il a été enlevé en Ukraine et que toute l'histoire a pour origine des soldats russes ivres qui ont fait usage de leurs armes.
Quel est l'intérêt de Moscou ?
A la suite des déclarations de Vladimir Poutine, certains ont craint que Moscou ne saisisse cette occasion pour déclencher une opération militaire et créer un couloir terrestre entre la Russie et la Crimée.
Mais pour le politologue Alexandre Baounov, du centre Carnegie de Moscou, une telle hypothèse "contredit la logique" actuelle de la Russie qui, fragilisée par une crise économique, souhaite normaliser ses relations avec les Occidentaux et voir levées les sanctions européennes et américaines.
Le Kremlin semble surtout chercher un nouveau levier pour peser davantage sur les négociations en vue du règlement de la crise ukrainienne, au point mort depuis la conclusion des accords de Minsk en février 2015, selon l'expert.
"La Russie est clairement en train d'utiliser ce qui s'est passé en Crimée pour souligner auprès des Occidentaux que les dirigeants ukrainiens refusent tout compromis", estime M. Baounov.
A quelques semaines des élections législatives russes de septembre, cet expert juge que Moscou pourrait aussi chercher à ranimer le patriotisme des habitants de cette péninsule, mis à mal par les pénuries ayant suivi son annexion.
Quel est l'intérêt de Kiev ?
Pour l'Ukraine, recourir à la force militaire pour récupérer la Crimée est illusoire, soulignent les experts.
"La dégradation de la situation n'est pas dans l'intérêt du gouvernement ukrainien", insiste Vadym Karasyov, directeur de l'Institut des stratégies mondiales à Kiev.
Pourtant, pour la première fois en deux ans dans la capitale ukrainienne, "on a recommencé à parler de l'éventualité d'une guerre", remarque Volodymir Fesenko, à la tête du centre d'études politiques Penta.
Pour M. Baounov, le brusque regain de tensions peut permettre à Kiev de remettre la Crimée au coeur des négociations, alors que les Occidentaux concentrent leurs efforts sur le conflit dans le Donbass, dans l'est de l'Ukraine.
"Moscou a réussi assez rapidement à séparer les questions du Donbass et de la Crimée", souligne le politologue. "Et le moment où ces deux questions peuvent être de nouveau liées pourrait s'envoler à jamais".
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Matt Dim 14 Aoû - 23:28
D'après ce que je vois sur Twitter, on s'oriente de plus en plus vers une "sortie" russe de Crimée vers Marioupol et la Russie et aussi vers Odessa pour faire le joint avec la Transnitrie et de là remonter sur Kiev (la satanique).
Dieu fasse que j'ai tort!
Dieu fasse que j'ai tort!
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benoit77 Dim 14 Aoû - 23:59
Vu la cata qu'est le sublime pont de kertch qui ne verra jamais le jour, la liaison terrestre est vraiment plus qu'une nécessité de confort.
Malgré tout, beaucoup pense que Poutine n'ira pas jusqu’à l'invasion.
Il s'agirait uniquement d'un jeu destiné à faire monter les enchères pour contre balancer les sanctions et en obtenir la fin...
Quand à la possibilité qu'il déclenche les hostilités de cet ordre, vu les lois que Poutine a pondu, il se pourrait bien que cela signe l'effondrement de la Russie.
Malgré tout, beaucoup pense que Poutine n'ira pas jusqu’à l'invasion.
Il s'agirait uniquement d'un jeu destiné à faire monter les enchères pour contre balancer les sanctions et en obtenir la fin...
Quand à la possibilité qu'il déclenche les hostilités de cet ordre, vu les lois que Poutine a pondu, il se pourrait bien que cela signe l'effondrement de la Russie.
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Matt Lun 15 Aoû - 0:03
Je pense comme toi, mais va savoir avec ducon . . .
Parce qu'il a les moyens de la (grosse) connerie (qui se retournerait contre lui) . . .
Parce qu'il a les moyens de la (grosse) connerie (qui se retournerait contre lui) . . .
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benoit77 Lun 15 Aoû - 0:34
A Lire
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/michael-day/russia-may-be-threatening_b_11432792.html
un article est sorti aussi dans le monde sur l'analyse de la situation par strelkov (mais l'article est payant).
Strelkov qui est désormais devenu le has been des doryphores me laissant dire que son avis devient assez intéressant à suivre.
l’hypothèse que l'armée russe réponde comme un seul homme à une invasion de l’Ukraine est très loin d'être garanti.
par contre que l'invasion provoque un chaos en russie ou une onde choc dépasse l'improbable pour se rapprocher du possible.
Et pour revenir à Strelkov,en 2015, il a dit que novorossia est mort et retenter le coup sera suicidaire !
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/michael-day/russia-may-be-threatening_b_11432792.html
un article est sorti aussi dans le monde sur l'analyse de la situation par strelkov (mais l'article est payant).
Strelkov qui est désormais devenu le has been des doryphores me laissant dire que son avis devient assez intéressant à suivre.
l’hypothèse que l'armée russe réponde comme un seul homme à une invasion de l’Ukraine est très loin d'être garanti.
par contre que l'invasion provoque un chaos en russie ou une onde choc dépasse l'improbable pour se rapprocher du possible.
Et pour revenir à Strelkov,en 2015, il a dit que novorossia est mort et retenter le coup sera suicidaire !
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Matt Mar 16 Aoû - 0:08
Soyons logique, retenter un coup raté, pour ça il faut de nouveaux moyens pour une nouvelle issue.
La Russie en a de moins en moins . . . => CQFD.
La Russie en a de moins en moins . . . => CQFD.
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