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Message  Александр Mer 12 Oct - 17:19

'We were forced to protect Russian-speaking people in Donbas' - Putin

Putin on Russia's role in Donbas conflict, Minsk implementation

Russian President Vladimir Putin said Tuesday that Moscow had to protect the Russian-speaking population in Donbas and Crimea, which could be seen as his confirmation that the Kremlin is involved in the war in Ukraine's East
Putin made this statement during investment forum ‘Russia calls!', Ukrainian news agencies report. 

Read also: Hybrid peace to bring more losses than hybrid war – Ukrainian MP

'I have to stress, we were forced to protect the Russian-speaking population in Donbas, were forced to react to Crimean people's desire to return to Russia', he said.

Putin also accused the United States of 'financing' Maidan. 

'Our American partners don't really hide they were mostly behind this, they were financing the radical opposition, and led to the unconstitutional change of the government, even though Yanukovych had signed all demands and had been ready to hold extra election', the Russian President claimed. 

He also said that situation in Donbas would not progress without Ukraine's implementation of the political section of the Minsk agreements.

‘They keep saying that the political part cannot be implemented, because combat is ongoing in the conflict region. But on September 9 rebels said they wouldn't even respond to Ukrainian armed force's attacks', Putin said.

He complained that Ukraine refuses to hold ‘direct talks' with the militants.

‘If somebody wants the agreements to be implemented, all sides of the conflict should be influenced, and Kyiv government in the first place', Putin said.

Read also: Kremlin sees no need for direct talks with Ukraine on Donbas - Putin's spokesman

‘We cannot implement Rada-approved law on special status for Donbas, instead of Kyiv. I cannot sign the Rada-approved amnesty law, instead of Ukrainian President', he added.
Ukraine has refused to begin the political implementation of the Minsk agreements and hold elections in militant-controlled Donbas, until Russia withdraws its troops from the region and provides permanent ceasefire. 
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Message  Александр Jeu 13 Oct - 9:40

Putin admits to Russian military involvement in Donbas

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At a forum on Oct 12, Russian President Vladimir Putin made his most direct acknowledgement so far of Russia’s long-known yet denied role in the conflict in Donbas.  It is possibly no coincidence that the admission follows a week or so of Russian nuclear sabre-rattling and what seems like a major campaign to convince the world that Russia is preparing for war.  Putin went on to assert that it was virtually impossible to conduct dialogue with the current US Administration. This, lo and behold, just happened to coincide with the claim from Russian politician Vladimir Zhirinovsky that “Americans should vote for Donald Trump as president next month or risk being dragged into a nuclear war”.   

Putin’s words contained some crucial factual inaccuracies, but Russia’s engagement was not one of them, and here he seemed quite clear.  He stated that: “We were forced to defend the Russian-speaking population of Donbas, forced to react to the desire of people living in Crimea to return to the Russian Federation”. 

He went on to blame the USA for Euromaidan, claiming that it was they who had financed what he referred to as the “radical opposition” and Ukraine for the failure of the Minsk Agreement. 

This was not the first time Putin has admitted a military role in Donbas.  On Dec 17, 2015, he acknowledged that “Russian military personnel were “resolving various issues" in Donbas.  He had been asked by Ukrainian journalist, Roman Tsymbalyuk about possible compliance with the Minsk agreement by releasing all Ukrainian political prisoners like Nadiya Savchenko and Oleg Sentsov, exchanging them for two Russian military intelligence officers captured in the Luhansk oblast.  Putin began by claiming that Russia had never said that they did not have people in Donbas engaged in various activities, including in the military sphere. But there are no regular forces, he asserted, and asked the audience (if they could) to “feel the difference”. 

Putin’s admission this time comes just weeks after the international investigation into the downing of the Malaysian MH17 airliner by a Russian BUK missile.  His honesty is startlingly brash under those circumstances. 

Moscow has always admitted that Russian nationals were fighting in Donbas, but has assiduously pushed the narrative that they are prompted, as Putin once claimed, “by the call of the heart”, and in no way Russian soldiers or mercenaries.

There is enormous satellite, video, witness and other evidence giving the lie to these claims.  There are also the graves of Russian soldiers who are known to have been killed in Donbas.

On Wednesday, Putin seemed to be shedding the myth about volunteers in Donbas, just as he once suddenly acknowledged that the soldiers in Crimea without insignia were indeed Russian. His version of events was deeply dishonest.

Russian soldiers seized control of government buildings in Simferopol on Feb 27, a day after a huge demonstration prevented an attempt to announce a change in Crimea’s status.  There is considerable evidence, including from tapes recently made public of intercepted conversations between Putin’s adviser Sergei Glazyev and others, that Russia was directly coordinating events long before the actual invasion.  A major player, first in Crimea, then Donbas was former Russian military intelligence officer Igor Girkin [nom de guerre Strelkov].  He has acknowledged arriving in Crimea on Feb 21, 2014, which gives the lie both to Putin’s own belated admission that preparations began on Feb 23, but shows clearly that the plans preceded Yanukovych fleeing on Feb 22.

Moscow has constantly tried to blur the picture, claiming that Russian soldiers were there to oversee a ‘referendum’ on joining Russia.  That so-called ‘referendum’ was announced by the marginal pro-Russian leader Sergei Aksyonov whom Russian soldiers helped to seize control on Feb 27.  There is plenty of testimony from different sources confirming that all parts of the procedure required Russian soldiers with Kalashnikov rifles.

The situation was similar in Donbas.  There were initial attempts to use locals, like Pavel Gubarev, a young man with neo-Nazi leanings and strong Russian links, to seize official buildings.  The attempts largely failed, even after huge numbers of Russian ‘tourists’ of a certain age and build began appearing to help the process along.  The real seizure of power came in early April with the heavily armed and well-equipped men around Girkin clearly led by Russians and from Moscow. 

The suggestion that Russia needed to intervene to protect the Russian-speaking population is absurd, since many of those who took up arms to defend Ukraine against the aggressor were themselves Russian-speaking.  It is also profoundly offensive given the senseless carnage and devastation caused, and huge number of people forced to flee their homes.

Russia’s military directly intervened in three major military battles – in Mariupol; Ilovaisk and Debaltseve, however it has long been known that 10 thousand Russian military personnel or more may be directly involved.

As well as military personnel, Russia has also been sending huge supplies of arms and military equipment across the militant-controlled part of the border, together with an unknown number of fighters.   Those sending the men drill them on what to say if asked why they’re there and most oblige by claiming to have come as volunteers to fight ‘fascists’.  While fascist ideologue Alexander Dugin and others did send their supporters to fight on ideological grounds, it is common knowledge that the vast majority of fighters are there for money. 

Here too Russia’s position is questionable.  The trial has begun in the United Kingdom of a British national Ben Stimson who is charged under the UK Terrorism Act over his believed fighting for the militants in Donbas.  Believed fighters have also been arrested in Latvia.  Yet in Russia, only one person has been sentenced to a prison term – for allegedly fighting for the Ukrainian side.  Even if we assume (without any reason) that the authorities in Moscow are not directly involved in the recruitment of men to fight in Donbas, they are very clearly not taking any measures to prevent it.  There are serious grounds for trying people like Girkin for war crimes or crimes against humanity committed in Ukraine.  He continues travelling around Russia, describing his activities in the media without any consequences.  A St Petersburg lawyer Arkady Chaplygin even demanded back in March that criminal proceedings be initiated.  He was ignored. 

It is for political analysts to determine why Putin decided at this time to show such openness about direct interference in its neighbour’s affairs.  They would do well to also probe Zhirinovsky’s openness which is often used to articulate, in extreme form, messages that the Kremlin wants the West to hear.  
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Message  Александр Lun 3 Juil - 8:58

Une nouvelle fois:

Le chef de la diplomatie russe admet l’implication de son pays dans la guerre en Ukraine

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Sergueï Lavrov répondait aux questions des journalistes lors du Primakov Readings International Forum à Moscou, le 30 juin. Image Ministère russe des Affaires étrangères.

Le ministre russe des Affaires étrangères, Sergueï Lavrov, a reconnu pour la première fois, hier au cours du « Primakov Readings International Forum », qui se tient à Moscou, que son pays était directement impliqué dans la guerre dans le Donbass ukrainien.

Sergey Lavrov: Everything depends on who looks at this or other situation. I don’t know whether the political community thinks that we are playing in the wrong league. I have read and heard much criticism regarding our decision to join the fight in Donbass and in Syria.

Intervenant devant les journalistes, et de nombreuses personnalités dont l’ancien secrétaire d’Etat américain Henry Kissinger, le chef de la diplomatie russe a déclaré : « J’ai lu et entendu beaucoup de critiques concernant notre décision de joindre le combat dans le Donbass et en Syrie. »
Le ministre des affaires étrangères répondait à une question sur la ligne adoptée par la Russie sur la scène internationale. « Est-ce acceptable pour la Russie, compte tenu de sa position internationale, de garder le silence et de reconnaître le coup d’Etat en Ukraine ? », s’est-il interrogé, ajoutant qu’il s’agissait d’une « révolte armée anti-constitutionnelle », « soutenue par l’étranger » et préjudiciable « aux Russes et locuteurs russes vivant en Ukraine ».
Jusqu’ici, le Kremlin avait toujours fermement nié toute implication militaire russe dans le Donbass. Tout au plus le pouvoir russe reconnaissait-il que de nombreux Russes se battaient aux côtés des séparatistes en tant que «volontaires». Quant aux armes utilisées par les pro-russes, elles auraient été confisquées aux militaires ukrainiens.
 
Source : Ministère russe des affaires étrangères. Intervention de Sergueï Lavrov au PRIF (anglais)
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Message  Euridya Mar 4 Juil - 8:20

Aaaaah, mieux vaut tard que jamais comme on dit...
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